<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Your aspersions are completely out of bounds. Your cleverness about due process is only cleverness.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I happen to be a supporter of the sale, since I believe the Trustees had a duty to diversify the assets of ISOC by getting out of the .org business. That is not to say, I think the process could not have been different and the the sort of protections now being implemented were not needed.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I would have welcomed incorporating reflecting whatever dissent you wanted to make, especially if it were supporting the sale.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">John More<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 1, 2020, at 5:29 PM, Mike Godwin <<a href="mailto:mnemonic@gmail.com" class="">mnemonic@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Richard writes:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">'<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.666666984558105px" class="">With due respect, the ChAC process was scrupulously followed, as Eduardo has explained. You apparently think that that process is not appropriate. You are of course entitled to you views, but it is the process that was approved by the Board.'</span></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.666666984558105px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.666666984558105px" class="">The notion that scrupulous adherence to due process is a defense is a common argument in Hell. See, e.g., this statement by Grant Gilmore:</span></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.666666984558105px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/342530-the-ages-of-american-law-the-storrs-lectures-series" class="">https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/342530-the-ages-of-american-law-the-storrs-lectures-series</a><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.666666984558105px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);font-family:Merriweather,Georgia,serif;font-size:14px" class="">In relevant sentence: "In hell there will be nothing but law, and due process will be meticulously observed.”</span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.666666984558105px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);font-family:Merriweather,Georgia,serif;font-size:14px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><font color="#181818" face="Merriweather, Georgia, serif" class="">Your argument that that due process was "scrupulously" followed is no comfort to the dissenters whom you participated in suppressing.</font></div><div class=""><font color="#181818" face="Merriweather, Georgia, serif" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font color="#181818" face="Merriweather, Georgia, serif" class="">Mike</font></div><div class=""><font color="#181818" face="Merriweather, Georgia, serif" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font color="#181818" face="Merriweather, Georgia, serif" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);font-family:Merriweather,Georgia,serif;font-size:14px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);font-family:Merriweather,Georgia,serif;font-size:14px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.666666984558105px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.666666984558105px" class=""><br class=""></span></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 5:07 PM John More via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" class="">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Juan <br class="">
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I fully recognize how busy most of us are. There is a difference between the elists which are often loaded with repetitious comments and can be a waste of time. The ChapterAC process for the advice was clear and scrupulously followed. Moreover, it involved relatively minimal time demands except for those of us on the drafting committee. All that was required was to review the draft and send in an email opposition. If there had been opposition expressed, a vote would have been required.<br class="">
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So I agree that silence is not assent, but it is a “consent" that the proposal go forward without a formal vote, especially since withholding consent was fairly easy to do.<br class="">
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I do hope you will be able to be involved if the ChaptersAC has another issue like this one.<br class="">
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Yours,<br class="">
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John More<br class="">
ISOC-DC<br class="">
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> On Mar 1, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Juan C. Cigala, Internet Society Canarias via Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank" class="">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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> I agree with Franca and Solomon, silence is not consent.<br class="">
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> Many of us haven't the time to take care of this kind of never ending kind of discussions.<br class="">
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> I support the debate, but with the due respect for the time of the others.<br class="">
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> On 2/27/2020 04:49, Solomon Hopewell Kembo via Chapter-delegates wrote:<br class="">
>> I agree with Franca, silence is not consent.<br class="">
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