<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 28, 2020, at 2:06 PM, Brandt Dainow via InternetPolicy <<a href="mailto:internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org" class="">internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I attended yesterday’s webinar with Ethos and was profoundly disappointed. I don’t think there is any point in further conversations with Ethos. Erik’s attempt to persuade was so far from my thinking it made me see any agreement or compromise is impossible. Erik talked business. His perspective is that the entire internet domain management system, from ICANN down, is a business - the business of selling the ability to have a website. He talked about branding, expansion, customers, market share etc. He talked about changing from a .org to a different domain type as nothing more than a choice of equal (and competing) products. To him, all that is happening is the PIR business is being sold by one business to another business. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I don’t see the .org registration system that way. To me, it is a public utility. So are all the TLD’s. I don’t think its OK for society to run all its public utilities, in any sector, as commercial businesses. .Org is the last free space on the internet. I’ve worked on the internet since 1988 and the web since 1992. I’ve watched a free open terrain of boundless possibilities get chopped up and enclosed by greedy corporations until this is the last bit left unpolluted. In some ways I feel like my life’s work has been destroyed.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">The very points Erik put forward in an effort to persuade us were points which would only persuade a business owner looking at it his way. The fact he used these points shows he has no comprehension of the real motivations behind the concerns of the .org community.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">What Ethos offer doesn’t, and never can, address all the concerns of the .org community. To do so would bind Ethos to a degree no sensible business could accept. It would require running the PIR like a public utility – with accountability, transparency, democratic governance, etc. Of course, ISOC needs to move in that direction as well. But that will only happen in the face of terrific resistance from the vested interests currently enjoying their dominance of ISOC leadership. I’m not sure ISOC is fixable.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I realise now there is a profound difference between what I joined ISOC for and what ISOC leadership think ISOC is for. I joined because I wanted to be part of a global community working to maintain the good order of the internet, develop it in a manner which benefited all humanity, represented the concerns and interests of its members, and which maintained a watch over the internet in general, and used its reputation and reach to preserve what is best about the internet. I suspect many others are in the same position. It is, of course, my fault. I assumed the missions were examples of a deeper and wider concern by ISOC for the internet in general. In reality they are the only things ISOC cares about.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">10 years of membership have taught me ISOC is only interested in the members as tools for fulfilling it’s individual missions, is opposed to genuine democratic governance, and has no concern for the general state of the internet. It does not see its missions in terms of the wider health of the internet – it is narrowly focused within those missions only. The individual missions are very worthy, but I joined ISOC for more than just those. Meanwhile, leadership demonstrates a profound ignorance of social, cultural, political and civic issues and the full range of global perspectives. In truth, ISOC is not fit for purpose. Unfortunately, there is no competing organisation which does care about the overall health of the internet and has the reach to do anything about it. ISOC is the closest to what is needed, but still miles away from it.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">The reality is there is no one standing up for the ordinary person on the internet. It should be ISOC, but ISOC isn’t up to the task.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">
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