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    Dear Greg,<br>
    <br>
    thank you for explaining what consensus is. A "consensus call" is
    indeed a call to ask for any opposition to the motion being
    presented and usually only objectors should respond. On this
    occasion (and on many others), some Chapters felt so strongly about
    the Advice being given that they explicitly decided to also publicly
    show their approval of the Advice. But indeed no objections were
    received and showing support was entirely optional. Now the Chapter
    AC Steering Committee has always said that if someone called for a
    vote instead of a consensus call, it would be possible to go down
    that route but all we are doing is to follow our Bylaws. <br>
    <br>
    Using "Unanimous Consensus" was unfortunate and having looked at the
    announcement before it went out, I should have pointed this out. The
    correct term is "Consensus".<br>
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    That said, I personally totally agree that we need to work with the
    ISOC BoT Chair, <font face="verdana, sans-serif">the rest of the
      Board, ISOC staff, the ChAC, the Chapters and all ISOC members to
      work toward making ISOC the best organization it can be. So
      focussing on procedures rather than the substance of the Statement
      is entirely disingenuous and does not serve ISOC's Mission - and
      that disconnect concerns me.<br>
      Kindest regards,<br>
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      Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond<br>
      Chapter AC Steering Committee Vice Chair<br>
      (own views)<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27/02/2020 07:28, Greg Shatan via
      Chapter-delegates wrote:<br>
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            sans-serif">Gonzalo and all,</font></div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana,
            sans-serif">I'd like to add a few observations.   Overall,
            it was a little off-putting to find that most of your
            response seemed aimed at discounting the advice and the
            level of support it enjoyed -- particularly given the major
            themes of the advice itself.  I understand these are trying
            times, and that you may not have actually read the advice at
            that time, but it did not strike me as quite the spirit in
            which such advice should be acknowledged.   I hope you will
            accept this email in the constructive manner in which it is
            offered.</font></div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana,
            sans-serif">First, with regard to preparing the draft
            advice: it should be noted that the drafting team's work
            went first to the <u>ChAC Steering Committee</u> which sent
            it back with comments. This further step in development and
            engagement should not be overlooked.</font></div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana,
            sans-serif">With regard to the decisional steps, ChAC rules
            and procedures state: "Decisions shall normally be taken by
            consensus (meaning lack of formal opposition). If consensus
            cannot be achieved, then the Chair of the AC Steering
            Committee shall organize a vote. In case of voting,
            decisions shall be taken by a majority vote of the delegates
            to the AC. The quorum shall be nineteen (19) delegates<span
style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242);color:rgb(11,28,45)"><b>."</b></span></font></div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana,
            sans-serif">The consensus call sent to the ChAC said: "<span
              style="background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0.02);color:rgb(0,0,0)">Please let
              us know if you object to any individual advice or all of
              the advice and provide the reasoning for the objection." 
              This is consistent with the the definition of consensus as
              <u>lack of formal opposition.</u> This is simply not a
              system designed to count supporters. It should not be used
              as such -- particularly not to claim that the the result
              of the consensus call indicated an 80-85% lack of
              engagement. </span></font></div>
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              style="background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0.02);color:rgb(0,0,0)">Given
              the attributes of this system, the number of positive
              responses is simply not particularly meaningful.  If you
              want a system that expressly enumerates positive support,
              this isn't it.  In this system, support arises from <u>lack
                of opposition</u>.  Consider that 3-4 SC members and 4
              drafting team members did not respond to the consensus
              call.  Should this be understood to mean they did not
              engage, did not participate in the discussion and did form
              an opinion on the advice?  Clearly not. It should be
              understood to mean they understand the system, which is
              that th</span><span
              style="background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0.02);color:rgb(0,0,0)">ose
              who support the advice <u>did not have to respond</u>.  </span> </font></div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana,
            sans-serif">Similarly, no conclusion can be reached about
            others who did not formally weigh in.  Given the system, the
            presumption must be that they were part of the consensus,
            and not part of the group who told you they somehow missed
            the entire discussion.</font></div>
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              style="background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0.02)">It is also
              notable that <i>the consensus call email thread contains
                more emails (44) than any other ChAC thread in the last
                three years, by a wide margin</i>.  With regard to the
              claim of 80-85% non-participation: there were roughly 25
              positive responses, out of 98 ChAC reps (better than 25%
              affirmative support).  If you add in SC and DT members who
              did not respond, active support rises to roughly 1/3 of
              the total ChAC -- a substantial  number in a system
              predicated on objections or the lack of objections, rather
              than affirmative support. </span></font></div>
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            sans-serif" color="#000000"><span
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            sans-serif" color="#000000"><span
              style="background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0.02)">This does not
              mean I'm entirely satisfied with the level of expressive
              participation.  More active engagement and discussion
              would have been great. And consistently greater engagement
              is a laudable goal. But the level of affirmative responses
              should not be turned into a measure of engagement.</span></font></div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana,
            sans-serif">The key takeaway from all of this should be that
            consensus was achieved and reported.  </font></div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana,
            sans-serif">The use of the term "unanimous" was
            substantively meaningless. While it may have been loose
            talk, it strikes me as a bit harsh to call it "unfortunately
            inappropriate."</font></div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana,
            sans-serif">Finally, your disappointment that we "decided
            not to include any information that was made available after
            February 10th, including the recently announced PIC" misses
            the mark.  This was a necessity so we could issue any advice
            at all in a timely manner.  This advice had been worked on
            for weeks and was at the end of the consensus call when the
            PICs were announced.  Pulling back the advice and
            considering the PICs would have required more drafting and
            another consensus call.  In a rapidly changing atmosphere,
            this approach can result in no advice at all.  Much of the
            advice addressed issues beyond those to which the PICS
            applied. It was judged better to put the advice out so that
            it would be part of the record and the conversation, while
            making it clear that it could be revised based on further
            developments.</font></div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana,
            sans-serif">I look forward to working with you, the rest of
            the Board, ISOC staff, the ChAC, the Chapters and all ISOC
            members to work toward making ISOC the best organization it
            can be.</font></div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 9:38
          PM John More via Chapter-delegates <<a
            href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
            moz-do-not-send="true">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>>
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          <div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Agreed.  There was a
            consensus.  Unanimous only applies when there has been call
            for votes and there are no “no” votes.
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            <div>John More<br>
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                  <div>On Feb 26, 2020, at 8:59 PM, Mike Godwin <<a
                      href="mailto:mnemonic@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">mnemonic@gmail.com</a>>
                    wrote:</div>
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                    <div dir="ltr">I've been confused, however, by the
                      use of the term "unanimous consensus."
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                      <div>In general, even though "consensus" does not
                        signify that a formal vote was taken,
                        "unanimous" signifies the opposite, per standard
                        United Nations nomenclature and throughout civil
                        society. </div>
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                      <div>In my own practice of international law, I've
                        never encountered the usage "unanimous
                        consensus" in any normal proceeding, but the
                        general rule is that when "unanimous" is used, a
                        formal vote was taken, and there was no dissent.
                        Is the understanding that you mean to
                        communicate simply that there was no dissent
                        about anything at all regarding the ChAC's
                        advice? Other lawyers here of course may take
                        different views, and I look forward to improving
                        my understanding of the language used here.</div>
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                      <div>Best regards,</div>
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                      <div>Mike Godwin</div>
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                      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 26,
                        2020 at 8:22 PM John More via Chapter-delegates
                        <<a
                          href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
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                        <div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Richard
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                          <div>My apologies.  You are absolutely correct
                            that the consensus call (including silence)
                            is to be taken as approval of the
                            recommendations. When helping draft the
                            policies and procedures for the ChAC, i
                            fully supported consensus as the proper
                            procedure for obtaining approval, unless
                            there was a call for a formal vote.  There
                            was no call for a vote in this instance.</div>
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                          <div>I note further that the draft
                            recommendations were circulated.  There were
                            calls for comments.  Richard did a great job
                            incorporating comments. An adequate time was
                            given to express opposition to the
                            consensus. An reminders were sent out for
                            the deadline</div>
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                          <div>I am afraid my comment, which was
                            entirely personal, came from my wishing
                            there had been more active engagement .</div>
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                          <div>So, again, the consensus procedure was
                            correct and stands as approval by the
                            Chapters of the proposed recommendations.</div>
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                          <div>Yours,</div>
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                          <div>John<br>
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                                <div>On Feb 26, 2020, at 10:01 AM,
                                  Richard Hill <<a
                                    href="mailto:rhill@hill-a.ch"
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></div>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I
                                        disagree with your inference
                                        below. The consensus call
                                        clearly indicated that lack of
                                        opposition (silence) would
                                        indicate approval. That’s not an
                                        unusual way to seek approval, it
                                        it is used in many
                                        circumstances.  And it is the
                                        method foreseen in the ChAC’s
                                        operating rules.</span></div>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></div>
                                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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                                      New Roman",serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">So,
                                        if we believe  in rules and
                                        procedures, then we must accept
                                        that the advice represents the
                                        consensus of the Chapters.</span></div>
                                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></div>
                                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Best,</span></div>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Richard</span></div>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></div>
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                                          <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><span> </span>Chapter-delegates
                                              [<a
                                                href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>]<span> </span><b>On
                                                Behalf Of<span> </span></b>John
                                              More via Chapter-delegates<br>
                                              <b>Sent:</b><span> </span>mercredi,
                                              26. février 2020 15:30<br>
                                              <b>To:</b><span> </span>Gonzalo
                                              Camarillo<br>
                                              <b>Cc:</b><span> </span>Chapters
                                              AC Elist; Chapter
                                              Delegates<br>
                                              <b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re:
                                              [Chapter-delegates]
                                              ChAC-SC Advice notice</span></div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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                                      <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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                                      <div>
                                        <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
                                          0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times
                                          New Roman",serif">The
                                          failure of the large majority
                                          of Chapter delegates to
                                          communicate in the call for
                                          consensus does indicate that
                                          the recommendations do not
                                          reflect a broad consensus in
                                          the ISOC community.  They
                                          reflect the concerns of the
                                          more activist Chapters.</div>
                                      </div>
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                                        <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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                                      <div>
                                        <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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                                          More</div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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                                          New Roman",serif">Delegate,
                                          ISOC-DC</div>
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                                            <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
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                                              New Roman",serif">On
                                              Feb 26, 2020, at 6:14 AM,
                                              Gonzalo Camarillo via
                                              Chapter-delegates <<a
                                                href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>>
                                              wrote:</div>
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                                            <div>
                                              <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Hi Eduardo,</span></div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">thanks for putting
                                                  together the three
                                                  documents with advice
                                                  to the Board. The
                                                  Board will discuss
                                                  them and get back to
                                                  you in order to
                                                  continue the dialog.</span></div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">In addition, as
                                                  you know, we have been
                                                  working for several
                                                  years with you and the
                                                  previous ChAC chairs
                                                  to find ways for us to
                                                  engage the community
                                                  more effectively.
                                                  Unfortunately, that
                                                  still seems to be a
                                                  challenge. Per the
                                                  thread below, where
                                                  you seem to have
                                                  discussed this advice,
                                                  around 80 to 85% of
                                                  our 124 chapters did
                                                  not participate in the
                                                  discussions or express
                                                  any opinion on the
                                                  advice at all:</span></div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a
href="https://connect.internetsociety.org/communities/community-home?CommunityKey=2ee50649-4a00-4918-83a5-4c8a9a7c7a4c"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:purple">https://connect.internetsociety.org/communities/community-home?CommunityKey=2ee50649-4a00-4918-83a5-4c8a9a7c7a4c</span></a></span></div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">We hope to
                                                  continue working with
                                                  you on finding ways to
                                                  engage a much larger
                                                  fraction of our
                                                  community in the
                                                  future, especially
                                                  when dealing with
                                                  important issues.</span></div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">With the above in
                                                  mind, it is
                                                  unfortunately
                                                  inappropriate to say
                                                  that this advice was
                                                  approved by
                                                  *unanimous* consensus
                                                  since most of the
                                                  community did not even
                                                  participate in the
                                                  discussions (after
                                                  receiving your advice,
                                                  several people from
                                                  different chapters
                                                  indeed told me they
                                                  had actually not
                                                  noticed the
                                                  discussions on the
                                                  advice at all).
                                                  Therefore, I am cc'ing
                                                  the 'Chapter
                                                  Delegates' mailing
                                                  list on this email so
                                                  that as many people as
                                                  possible from our
                                                  community are aware of
                                                  these advice and our
                                                  upcoming response.</span></div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I have also
                                                  noticed that you
                                                  decided not to include
                                                  any information that
                                                  was made available
                                                  after February 10th,
                                                  including the recently
                                                  announced PIC. Well,
                                                  we can discuss that on
                                                  the webinar on Friday.
                                                  I am looking forward
                                                  to that.</span></div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Cheers,</span></div>
                                            </div>
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                                              <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Gonzalo</span></div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
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0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Chair - ISOC Board
                                                  of Trustees</span></div>
                                            </div>
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                                              <div style="margin:0cm 0cm
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></div>
                                            </div>
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0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></div>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Eduardo Diaz <<a
href="mailto:eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com"
                                                          style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:purple">eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com</span></a>><span> </span><br>
                                                        <b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Monday,
                                                        February 24,
                                                        2020 04:22<br>
                                                        <b>To:</b><span> </span>Gonzalo
                                                        Camarillo <<a
href="mailto:gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com"
                                                          style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:purple">gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com</span></a>>;
                                                        Kevin Craemer
                                                        <<a
                                                          href="mailto:Craemer@isoc.org"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:purple">Craemer@isoc.org</span></a>><br>
                                                        <b>Cc:</b><span> </span>Chapters
                                                        AC Elist <<a
href="mailto:ChaptersAC-SC@elists.isoc.org"
                                                          style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:purple">ChaptersAC-SC@elists.isoc.org</span></a>><br>
                                                        <b>Subject:</b><span> </span>ChAC-SC
                                                        Advice notice</span></div>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></div>
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style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Distinguished Members of the
                                                          Board:</span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"></span></div>
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style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"></span></div>
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style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">The Chapter Advisory Council
                                                          Steering
                                                          Committee
                                                          (ChAC-SC) is
                                                          submitting the
                                                          following
                                                          advice for
                                                          your
                                                          consideration:</span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"></span></div>
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style="font-size:18pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span><span
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                                                      type="1" start="1">
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                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times
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Roman",serif;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal"><span
style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Advice
                                                          2020.02.13-01
                                                          ::<span> </span></span><u><span
style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><a
                                                          href="https://isoc.box.com/s/amwx365bl2w38gh3laxneo2pv1q4w1jy"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:purple">The sale of PIR to Ethos Capital should not proceed
                                                          unless a
                                                          number of
                                                          conditions are
                                                          met.</span></a></span></u><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"></span></li>
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                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times
                                                        New
Roman",serif;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal"><span
style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Advice
                                                          2020.02.13-02
                                                          ::<span> </span></span><span
style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><a
                                                          href="https://isoc.box.com/s/3gey7i3gbqomurwfhhuvxqq49ms0hwm3"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:purple">ISOC constituencies must be consulted</span></a></span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"></span></li>
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                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times
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                                                          2020.02.13-03
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style="color:purple">Changes to ISOC’s Bylaws to strengthen Advisory
                                                          Councils and
                                                          Chapters</span></a></span><span
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style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">The Full Chapter Advisory Council
                                                          (Full ChAC)
                                                          approved all
                                                          Advice by
                                                          unanimous
                                                          consensus. No
                                                          objections
                                                          were received
                                                          by the set
                                                          deadline.</span><span
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style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Please note that Advice #1 is
                                                          based on
                                                          information
                                                          available as
                                                          of 10 February
                                                          2020.</span><span
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style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Thank you for the opportunity to
                                                          work with you
                                                          to make ISOC a
                                                          better
                                                          organization.</span><span
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      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">_______________________________________________
As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed
to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS):
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login">https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login</a>
View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/">https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/</a>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
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