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color:#1F497D'>+1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Igor Mkrtumyan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>ISOC Armenia Chapter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Chapter-delegates
[mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Shuli
Hallak<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 12, 2018 7:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates] How many members do we have?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>John,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Well said. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I would add that creating and maintaining chapter support
from the top is a delicate balance but based on my experience here I would
suggest empowering chapters with efficient tools. Maybe some of these already
exist and we / I don’t know about them. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Such as:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>— website templates (Wordpress or other)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>— newsletter templates<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>— box accounts<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>— zoom accounts<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>— event training<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>— legal document templates (if possible)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>— guidance on creating membership tiers if chapters would
like two create paid memberships <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>The idea being not to re-invent the wheel if we don’t have
to and to help chapters continue helping themselves<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Shuli<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>(NY Chapter)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Dec 11, 2018, at 9:26 PM, John More <<a
href="mailto:morej1@mac.com">morej1@mac.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Dave<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Much of what you say is correct. Even while working to
strengthen the Chapter structure and bringing more accountability, I have
always taken the position that ISOC should not claim to be a “membership”
organization in that it has never done anything to create an effective,
connected membership. I have been a member for years. I have even given
made the $75 contribution. Nothing. No regular communications are
sent from ISOC, only from the Chapter. There is no solicitation of
donations, there are no calls to action, there are virtually no communications
unless you sign onto a specific e-list of project.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Sharp contrast with international organizations, like
Greenpeace, Amnesty International, or Human Rights Watch.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>A friend who had been with the Physicians for Social
Responsibility came out of retirement to lead The Rachel Carson Council.
He has re-energized and increased the membership by soliciting, sending
newsletters, asking for activism, creating intern training programs and college
campus councils — all to engage in environmental justice activism.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>ISOC needs more this. And it does not require hiring
consultants.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>The only caveat I have with what you say is that you love
broadsides and are rarely willing to admit where things are happening.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>But your point is well taken.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>John More<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Dec 11, 2018, at 6:01 PM, Dave Burstein <<a
href="mailto:daveb@dslprime.com">daveb@dslprime.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>All<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>Andrew
notes, accurately, that ISOC's membership should not have been claimed we had
110,000 members.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>The
figure was prominently on our home page, however. </span></b><span
style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>Those closely involved in ISOC
always knew it was inaccurate, but refused to take it off the home page even
after it was brought up and discussed at the top. ISOC used the claim in
advocacy. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>The
home page also said ISOC was "a trusted source." Trust needs to be
earned, not claimed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>All of
us want to be proud of what ISOC is accomplishing. We share the powerful human
trait of "confirmation bias." It is very hard for anyone to listen to
what disagrees with one's own beliefs, including that a group we are part of is
to be admired. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>ISOC,
almost all of us agree, can and should be doing more to bring a great Internet
to everyone. (We disagree on how to do that, of course.) <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>To be
effective, we need to look honestly at what we are doing. In practice, those
raising problems were told, "you're shouldn't be so negative," often
attacked and shot down. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>I'm
still here, because I believe ISOC, with a $30M/year subsidy from .org, has the
potential to be the most powerful <u>pro-consumer</u> force on the net.
But I've watched for several years as those who agreed, and supported issues
like more chapter funding got burned out and left. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>I knew
Kathy for years as one of the most progressive in D.C. circles and expected her
to do much more. I know several of the board members to be hardworking,
articulate, concerned, and of good faith. I know the same is true of Andrew. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>Can we
be honest with ourselves and do better? 75% of the Internet is not in the U.S.,
Western Europe, and allies. China alone is 40% and their achievements
remarkable. (344M have fiber home connections.) I am not naive about the
Chinese government, but we can never be truly effective organizing the Internet
without including them, as well as the many others not well-represented here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>Unfortunately,
Andrew is wrong that we now have <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>an<span class=gmaildefault><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>
</span></span>admittedly smaller list of confirmed and clearly engaged
members. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>I wish
that were true. But I know in New York the majority of our "members"
are nothing more than people who have agreed to be on a mailing list. I don't
think we've had a meeting with even 75 of our "2,500" members in at
least the last 5 years. The maximum number of people who have done <i>anything
at all</i> is perhaps 400, and very few of them are "clearly
engaged." <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>Which
I, Andrew, and many others are working to improve.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>Dave<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>(Who
would much rather be discussing the right radios for rural Africa or the
unhyped prospects of 5G, rather than wasting time in what should be unneeded
organizational problems. If we become the "bottom-up multi-stakeholder
organization" Kathy wanted us to be, we would be doing a much better job
delivering what we all believe in.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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