<div><div dir="auto">The easy solution is to move Chapter-leaders to <a href="mailto:chapter-leaders@isoc.org">chapter-leaders@isoc.org</a> and just leave ChAC delegates on this list. This would revert this list to less or more its original function.  </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">At some point a decision was made to add all Chapter officers, but before that it was indeed for delegates, hence the name.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Joly</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 11:54 PM Winthrop Yu <<a href="mailto:w.yu@gmx.net">w.yu@gmx.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    <p>    Joly, i think they're deprecating the old mailman lists. We
      requested one months ago, and were instead offered a Connect
      list/forum. Since Connect wasn't what we wanted, we haven't heard
      from them since. <br>
    </p>
    <p>WYn</p></div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="m_-813331756206603408moz-cite-prefix">On 12 Nov 2018 12:42 PM, Joly MacFie
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      
      <div dir="ltr">
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I believe we
          are back to the perennial and apparently unresolved problem of
          confusion over mailing lists.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">In brief -
          the longstanding 'Chapter-Delegates' mailman is actually a
          Chapter Leaders list to which all Chapter Officers on the AMS
          are automatically subscribed.  None of whom have a vote in the
          ChAC SC election (unless of course they are designated ChAC
          delegates)</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Meanwhile,
          the actual ChaC Delegates can only exclusively collectively be
          addressed via a Connect Community.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Last time
          round Eduardo Diaz proposed the following solution. What
          happened with that?</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><i><font color="#0000ff"><span class="gmail_default"></span>On Thu,
              Aug 3, 2017 at 10:01 AM Eduardo Diaz <<a href="mailto:eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com" target="_blank">eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com</a>>
              wrote:</font></i><br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">
            <div dir="ltr"><span class="gmail_default"></span><span class="gmail_default"></span><i><font color="#0000ff"><br>
                </font></i></div>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
              <div dir="ltr"><i><font color="#0000ff">This is what I
                    recommended i the last AC-SC meeting (no quorum to
                    approve though):</font></i>
                <div><i><font color="#0000ff"><br>
                    </font></i></div>
                <div>
                  <div id="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid328" class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line">
                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-lineAttribMarker" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px"><i><font color="#0000ff"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-212121
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">The
                            following two lists are accessed only as a
                            group list by email (i.e. they do not exist
                            in ISOC Connect):</span><br class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                        </font></i></div>
                  </div>
                  <div id="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid329" class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line">
                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list:bullet1
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-lineAttribMarker" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px">
                      <ul class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet1" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font color="#0000ff"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-b m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-212121
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"><b style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><a href="mailto:chaptersac-sc@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chaptersac-sc@elists.isoc.org</a></b></span><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-b m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-212121
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-777777
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"><b style="margin:0px;padding:0px"> : </b></span><br class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                            </font></i></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div id="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid330" class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line">
                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list:bullet2
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-lineAttribMarker" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px">
                      <ul class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet2" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font color="#0000ff"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-212121
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">Chapter Advisory Council
                                Steering Committee members and
                                interested staff only. </span><br class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                            </font></i></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div id="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid331" class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line">
                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list:bullet2
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-lineAttribMarker" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px">
                      <ul class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet2" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font color="#0000ff"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-212121
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">This list is maintained
                                manually by ISOC staff and the Chapter
                                AC-SC Secretary.</span><br class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                            </font></i></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div id="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid332" class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line">
                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list:bullet1
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-lineAttribMarker" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px">
                      <ul class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet1" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font color="#0000ff"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-b m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-212121
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"><b style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a> :</b></span><br class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                            </font></i></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div id="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid333" class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line">
                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list:bullet2
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-lineAttribMarker" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px">
                      <ul class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet2" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font color="#0000ff"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-212121
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">All Chapter Officers which
                                have been identified in the ISOC AMS
                                system and interested staff only. </span><br class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                            </font></i></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div id="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid334" class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line">
                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list:bullet2
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                      <ul class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet2" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font color="#0000ff"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-212121
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">Chapter officers are but
                                not limited to Chair, Vice-chair,
                                Secretary, Treasurer, Chapter Board
                                Members, etc. </span><br class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                            </font></i></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div id="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid335" class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line">
                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list:bullet2
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-lineAttribMarker" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px">
                      <ul class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet2" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-212121
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"><i><font color="#0000ff">This list is maintained
                                manually by ISOC staff but I do not know
                                how it is synchronized with the ISOC AMS
                                system or how often.</font></i></span></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div id="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid336" class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line">
                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-lineAttribMarker" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"><i><font color="#0000ff"><br>
                          </font></i></span></div>
                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-lineAttribMarker" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px"><i><font color="#0000ff"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">Tthe
                            following two are accessed only through ISOC
                            Connect (i.e.</span><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-b m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
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m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">can
                            not be accessed as a group mailing list) </span><br class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
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                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list:bullet1
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                      <ul class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet1" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font color="#0000ff"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-b m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
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                                  Advisory Council</b></span><br class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                            </font></i></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
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                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
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                      <ul class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet2" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font color="#0000ff"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-212121
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">Chapter Advisory Council
                                Representatives and staff only. </span><br class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                            </font></i></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div id="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid339" class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line">
                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list:bullet2
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                      <ul class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet2" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font color="#0000ff"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-212121
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">They are the people that
                                appear </span><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-212121
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-link-MTUwMDI5OTE3Mzk4NC1odHRwczovL3d3dy5pbnRlcm5ldHNvY2lldHkub3JnL2Zvcm0vY2hhcHRlci1yZXByZXNlbnRhdGl2ZXM=" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"><a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/form/chapter-representatives" rel="noreferrer nofollow" class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-link" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;text-decoration-line:none" target="_blank">HERE</a></span><br class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                            </font></i></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div id="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid340" class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line">
                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list:bullet2
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-lineAttribMarker" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px">
                      <ul class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet2" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font color="#0000ff"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">Maintained automatically by
                                selecting those chapters officers
                                identified as </span><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-i" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"><span style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Chapter
                                  Advisory Council Representative </span></span><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">in the ISOC AMS system.</span><br class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                            </font></i></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
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                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list:bullet1
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                      <ul class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet1" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font color="#0000ff"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-b m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"><b style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Chapter
                                  Leaders Community</b></span><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-b m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-large m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1.57em"><b style="margin:0px;padding:0px"> </b></span><br class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                            </font></i></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div id="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid342" class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line">
                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list:bullet2
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                      <ul class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet2" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font color="#0000ff"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-212121
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">All Chapter Officers which
                                have been identified in the ISOC AMS
                                system and interested staff only. </span><br class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                            </font></i></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div id="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid343" class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line">
                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list:bullet2
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                      <ul class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet2" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font color="#0000ff"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-212121
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">Chapter officers are but
                                not limited to Chair, Vice-chair,
                                Secretary, Treasurer, Chapter Board
                                Members, etc. </span><br class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                            </font></i></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div id="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid344" class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line">
                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list:bullet2
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                      <ul class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet2" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"><i><font color="#0000ff">Maintained automatically
                                by selecting all chapters officers
                                identified in the ISOC AMS system.</font></i></span></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div id="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid345" class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line">
                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-lineAttribMarker" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"><i><font color="#0000ff"><br>
                          </font></i></span></div>
                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-lineAttribMarker" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px"><i><font color="#0000ff"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">The
                            main problem is between chapter-delegates
                            (mailman) and Chapter Leaders Community
                            (Connect). They contain the same people. </span><br class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603" style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                        </font></i></div>
                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-lineAttribMarker" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"><i><font color="#0000ff"><br>
                          </font></i></span></div>
                  </div>
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                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-lineAttribMarker" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px"><i><font color="#0000ff"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
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m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">My
                            recommendation is to archive both Connect
                            list (i.e. not to be used further) and
                            create a chapters_ac</span><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">@<a href="http://elists.isoc.org/" target="_blank">elists.isoc.org</a></span><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"> in
                            mailman for the use of the all Advisory
                            Council members. </span><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-inbox-font-size-medium" style="font-size:1em;margin:0px;padding:0px">This
                            list should be maintained automatically (or
                            manually by staff) by selecting those
                            chapters officers identified as </span><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-inbox-font-size-medium
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-inbox-i" style="font-size:1em;margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Chapter
                              Advisory Council Representative </span></span><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-inbox-font-size-medium" style="font-size:1em;margin:0px;padding:0px">in
                            the ISOC AMS system. Also,  </span><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="font-size:1em;margin:0px;padding:0px">continue
                            the use of the </span><span style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a> mailman
                            list</span><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-color-000000
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="font-size:1em;margin:0px;padding:0px">.
                            This list should be maintained automatically
                            (or manually by staff) by selecting chapters
                            officers identified in the ISOC AMS system. </span></font></i></div>
                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
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                          </font></i></span></div>
                    <div class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603 m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-lineAttribMarker" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px"><span class="m_-813331756206603408m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
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m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-font-size-medium" style="font-size:1em;margin:0px;padding:0px"><i><font color="#0000ff">-ed</font></i></span></div>
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        <div dir="ltr">On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 8:33 PM Susannah Gray
          <<a href="mailto:susannah.gray@gmail.com" target="_blank">susannah.gray@gmail.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Chapter
          Delegates,<br>
          <br>
          I am honoured to be standing in this year’s Chapter Advisory
          Council <br>
          Steering Committee Elections and hope that you will consider
          voting for me.<br>
          <br>
          I have served as the San Francisco Bay Area Internet Society
          Chapter <br>
          President since 2016. Further, as a strategic communications
          expert with <br>
          a background in Internet governance and multi-stakeholder, <br>
          community-driven processes, I have spent the last 15 years
          promoting and <br>
          protecting the concept of an open, inclusive and sustainable
          Internet as <br>
          part of the Internet technical community.<br>
          <br>
          Currently based in the US, I grew up in the UK/Europe and have
          worked <br>
          with Internet industry organisations across Europe, the US,
          Africa and <br>
          Asia Pacific, which has given me an in-depth understanding of
          the global <br>
          Internet ecosystem and the issues faced by Internet users
          around the world.<br>
          <br>
          With a new CEO on board, we can expect to see changes to the
          Internet <br>
          Society over the coming months. With a direct link to the
          Board of <br>
          Trustees and to the CEO, the CHAC Steering Committee is in a
          unique <br>
          position to guide some of these changes. It is therefore
          imperative that <br>
          all Chapters make their ideas and concerns heard so that the
          Chapters’ <br>
          needs are taken into consideration as the Internet Society
          evolves.<br>
          <br>
          To ensure that this happens, I believe it is necessary to
          improve <br>
          communication methods at all levels of the organisation and to
          <br>
          facilitate more dialogue between the Chapters, the CHAC
          Steering <br>
          Committee and the Board of Trustees/CEO. As part of the CHAC
          Steering <br>
          Committee, I look forward to embracing the bottom-up ethos of
          the <br>
          Internet Society by representing all Chapters and bringing the
          matters <br>
          that concern them the most to the fore.<br>
          <br>
          You can find out more about me and my background at:<br>
          - <a href="https://www.sfbayisoc.org/board/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.sfbayisoc.org/board/</a><br>
          <br>
          and<br>
          <br>
          - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/susannahgray/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/susannahgray/</a><br>
          <br>
          Kind regards,<br>
          <br>
          Susannah<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          Susannah Gray<br>
          President<br>
          San Francisco Bay Area Internet Society Chapter<br>
          <a href="http://www.sfbayisoc.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.sfbayisoc.org</a><br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          _______________________________________________<br>
          As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically
          subscribed<br>
          to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the
          Internet Society<br>
          Chapter Portal (AMS): <a href="https://portal.isoc.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://portal.isoc.org</a><br>
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As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed
to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society
Chapter Portal (AMS): <a class="m_-813331756206603408moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://portal.isoc.org" target="_blank">https://portal.isoc.org</a>
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_______________________________________________<br>
As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed<br>
to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society<br>
Chapter Portal (AMS): <a href="https://portal.isoc.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://portal.isoc.org</a><br>
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