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    <p>Hi Joly, <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/11/2018 20:42, Joly MacFie wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I believe we
          are back to the perennial and apparently unresolved problem of
          confusion over mailing lists.</div>
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    - Ah! <br>
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cite="mid:CAM9VJk1rY5eM5NGvrD8sUWVjOrkh1e2UtJnO9Xaa5trgswebXA@mail.gmail.com">
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">In brief -
          the longstanding 'Chapter-Delegates' mailman is actually a
          Chapter Leaders list to which all Chapter Officers on the AMS
          are automatically subscribed.  None of whom have a vote in the
          ChAC SC election (unless of course they are designated ChAC
          delegates)</div>
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    <p>-  Perhaps the designated CHAC delegate would like input from the
      other Chapter officers regarding their Chapter's vote though so I
      don't feel my posting was in vain :). <br>
    </p>
    <p>Cheers, <br>
    </p>
    <p>Susannah <br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
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    <p><br>
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cite="mid:CAM9VJk1rY5eM5NGvrD8sUWVjOrkh1e2UtJnO9Xaa5trgswebXA@mail.gmail.com">
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Meanwhile,
          the actual ChaC Delegates can only exclusively collectively be
          addressed via a Connect Community.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Last time
          round Eduardo Diaz proposed the following solution. What
          happened with that?</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><i><font
              color="#0000ff"><span class="gmail_default"></span>On Thu,
              Aug 3, 2017 at 10:01 AM Eduardo Diaz <<a
                href="mailto:eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com</a>>
              wrote:</font></i><br>
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              <div dir="ltr"><i><font color="#0000ff">This is what I
                    recommended i the last AC-SC meeting (no quorum to
                    approve though):</font></i>
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                            style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">The
                            following two lists are accessed only as a
                            group list by email (i.e. they do not exist
                            in ISOC Connect):</span><br
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"><b
                                  style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><a
                                    href="mailto:chaptersac-sc@elists.isoc.org"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">chaptersac-sc@elists.isoc.org</a></b></span><span
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
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                              color="#0000ff"><span
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">Chapter Advisory Council
                                Steering Committee members and
                                interested staff only. </span><br
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                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font
                              color="#0000ff"><span
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">This list is maintained
                                manually by ISOC staff and the Chapter
                                AC-SC Secretary.</span><br
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"><b
                                  style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><a
                                    href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a> :</b></span><br
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                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font
                              color="#0000ff"><span
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">All Chapter Officers which
                                have been identified in the ISOC AMS
                                system and interested staff only. </span><br
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                        style="margin:0px 0px 0px
                        3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font
                              color="#0000ff"><span
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">Chapter officers are but
                                not limited to Chair, Vice-chair,
                                Secretary, Treasurer, Chapter Board
                                Members, etc. </span><br
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                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><span
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                            style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"><i><font
                                color="#0000ff">This list is maintained
                                manually by ISOC staff but I do not know
                                how it is synchronized with the ISOC AMS
                                system or how often.</font></i></span></li>
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                    <div
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                            style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">Tthe
                            following two are accessed only through ISOC
                            Connect (i.e.</span><span
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                              style="margin:0px;padding:0px"> </b></span><span
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                            style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">can
                            not be accessed as a group mailing list) </span><br
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                            style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                        </font></i></div>
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                    id="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid337"
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                    style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px
                    0px;font-family:Lato,"Helvetica
                    Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px">
                    <div
                      class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
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                      style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px">
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                        style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font
                              color="#0000ff"><span
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"><b
                                  style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Chapter
                                  Advisory Council</b></span><br
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603"
                                style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                            </font></i></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
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                  <div
                    id="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid338"
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line"
                    style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px
                    0px;font-family:Lato,"Helvetica
                    Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px">
                    <div
                      class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
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                      style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px">
                      <ul
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet2"
                        style="margin:0px 0px 0px
                        3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font
                              color="#0000ff"><span
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">Chapter Advisory Council
                                Representatives and staff only. </span><br
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603"
                                style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                            </font></i></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div
                    id="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid339"
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line"
                    style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px
                    0px;font-family:Lato,"Helvetica
                    Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px">
                    <div
                      class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
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                      style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px">
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class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet2"
                        style="margin:0px 0px 0px
                        3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font
                              color="#0000ff"><span
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">They are the people that
                                appear </span><span
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"><a
                                  href="https://www.internetsociety.org/form/chapter-representatives"
                                  rel="noreferrer nofollow"
                                  class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-link"
style="margin:0px;padding:0px;text-decoration-line:none" target="_blank"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">HERE</a></span><br
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603"
                                style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                            </font></i></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div
                    id="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid340"
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line"
                    style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px
                    0px;font-family:Lato,"Helvetica
                    Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px">
                    <div
                      class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
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                      style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px">
                      <ul
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet2"
                        style="margin:0px 0px 0px
                        3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font
                              color="#0000ff"><span
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">Maintained automatically by
                                selecting those chapters officers
                                identified as </span><span
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
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                                m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-i"
style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"><span
                                  style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Chapter
                                  Advisory Council Representative </span></span><span
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">in the ISOC AMS system.</span><br
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603"
                                style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                            </font></i></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div
                    id="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid341"
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line"
                    style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px
                    0px;font-family:Lato,"Helvetica
                    Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px">
                    <div
                      class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
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                      style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px">
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class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet1"
                        style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font
                              color="#0000ff"><span
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"><b
                                  style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Chapter
                                  Leaders Community</b></span><span
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1.57em"><b
                                  style="margin:0px;padding:0px"> </b></span><br
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                                style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                            </font></i></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div
                    id="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid342"
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                    style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px
                    0px;font-family:Lato,"Helvetica
                    Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px">
                    <div
                      class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
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                      style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px">
                      <ul
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet2"
                        style="margin:0px 0px 0px
                        3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font
                              color="#0000ff"><span
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">All Chapter Officers which
                                have been identified in the ISOC AMS
                                system and interested staff only. </span><br
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603"
                                style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                            </font></i></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div
                    id="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid343"
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line"
                    style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px
                    0px;font-family:Lato,"Helvetica
                    Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px">
                    <div
                      class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
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                      style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px">
                      <ul
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet2"
                        style="margin:0px 0px 0px
                        3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><i><font
                              color="#0000ff"><span
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">Chapter officers are but
                                not limited to Chair, Vice-chair,
                                Secretary, Treasurer, Chapter Board
                                Members, etc. </span><br
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603"
                                style="margin:0px;padding:0px">
                            </font></i></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div
                    id="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid344"
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-ace-line"
                    style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px
                    0px;font-family:Lato,"Helvetica
                    Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px">
                    <div
                      class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
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                      style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px">
                      <ul
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-list-bullet2"
                        style="margin:0px 0px 0px
                        3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">
                        <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0.2em"><span
class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-author-241856603
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                            style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"><i><font
                                color="#0000ff">Maintained automatically
                                by selecting all chapters officers
                                identified in the ISOC AMS system.</font></i></span></li>
                      </ul>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div
                    id="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-magicdomid345"
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                    style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px
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                    Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px">
                    <div
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                        style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"><i><font
                            color="#0000ff"><br>
                          </font></i></span></div>
                    <div
                      class="m_7836604973685349790gmail-m_6660374866541814628inbox-align-left
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                      style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px"><i><font
                          color="#0000ff"><span
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                            style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">The
                            main problem is between chapter-delegates
                            (mailman) and Chapter Leaders Community
                            (Connect). They contain the same people. </span><br
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                            style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">My
                            recommendation is to archive both Connect
                            list (i.e. not to be used further) and
                            create a chapters_ac</span><span
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                            style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em">@<a
                              href="http://elists.isoc.org/"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">elists.isoc.org</a></span><span
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                            style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em"> in
                            mailman for the use of the all Advisory
                            Council members. </span><span
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                            style="font-size:1em;margin:0px;padding:0px">This
                            list should be maintained automatically (or
                            manually by staff) by selecting those
                            chapters officers identified as </span><span
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                            style="font-size:1em;margin:0px;padding:0px"><span
                              style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Chapter
                              Advisory Council Representative </span></span><span
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                            style="font-size:1em;margin:0px;padding:0px">in
                            the ISOC AMS system. Also,  </span><span
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                            style="font-size:1em;margin:0px;padding:0px">continue
                            the use of the </span><span
                            style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><a
                              href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a> mailman
                            list</span><span
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                            style="font-size:1em;margin:0px;padding:0px">.
                            This list should be maintained automatically
                            (or manually by staff) by selecting chapters
                            officers identified in the ISOC AMS system. </span></font></i></div>
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        <div dir="ltr">On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 8:33 PM Susannah Gray
          <<a href="mailto:susannah.gray@gmail.com" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">susannah.gray@gmail.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Chapter
          Delegates,<br>
          <br>
          I am honoured to be standing in this year’s Chapter Advisory
          Council <br>
          Steering Committee Elections and hope that you will consider
          voting for me.<br>
          <br>
          I have served as the San Francisco Bay Area Internet Society
          Chapter <br>
          President since 2016. Further, as a strategic communications
          expert with <br>
          a background in Internet governance and multi-stakeholder, <br>
          community-driven processes, I have spent the last 15 years
          promoting and <br>
          protecting the concept of an open, inclusive and sustainable
          Internet as <br>
          part of the Internet technical community.<br>
          <br>
          Currently based in the US, I grew up in the UK/Europe and have
          worked <br>
          with Internet industry organisations across Europe, the US,
          Africa and <br>
          Asia Pacific, which has given me an in-depth understanding of
          the global <br>
          Internet ecosystem and the issues faced by Internet users
          around the world.<br>
          <br>
          With a new CEO on board, we can expect to see changes to the
          Internet <br>
          Society over the coming months. With a direct link to the
          Board of <br>
          Trustees and to the CEO, the CHAC Steering Committee is in a
          unique <br>
          position to guide some of these changes. It is therefore
          imperative that <br>
          all Chapters make their ideas and concerns heard so that the
          Chapters’ <br>
          needs are taken into consideration as the Internet Society
          evolves.<br>
          <br>
          To ensure that this happens, I believe it is necessary to
          improve <br>
          communication methods at all levels of the organisation and to
          <br>
          facilitate more dialogue between the Chapters, the CHAC
          Steering <br>
          Committee and the Board of Trustees/CEO. As part of the CHAC
          Steering <br>
          Committee, I look forward to embracing the bottom-up ethos of
          the <br>
          Internet Society by representing all Chapters and bringing the
          matters <br>
          that concern them the most to the fore.<br>
          <br>
          You can find out more about me and my background at:<br>
          - <a href="https://www.sfbayisoc.org/board/" rel="noreferrer"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.sfbayisoc.org/board/</a><br>
          <br>
          and<br>
          <br>
          - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/susannahgray/"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.linkedin.com/in/susannahgray/</a><br>
          <br>
          Kind regards,<br>
          <br>
          Susannah<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          Susannah Gray<br>
          President<br>
          San Francisco Bay Area Internet Society Chapter<br>
          <a href="http://www.sfbayisoc.org" rel="noreferrer"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.sfbayisoc.org</a><br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          _______________________________________________<br>
          As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically
          subscribed<br>
          to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the
          Internet Society<br>
          Chapter Portal (AMS): <a href="https://portal.isoc.org"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://portal.isoc.org</a><br>
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