<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">Glenn</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">No disrespect, but there's a missing question in the survey. </div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><blockquote style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">How do you make sure the program works?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><br></div></blockquote><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif">I wish it weren't so, but nearly all "digital inclusion" programs in the $7B U.S. broadband stimulus failed except those that brought down the price. (Pointers to programs with solid evidence of results welcome.)</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"> <div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I only know the U.S. data but I would expect similar many other places. Reliance Jio brought the cost of a smartphone data plan under $3/month and >100M Indians have signed up</span><span> </span><br></font></div><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">By now, almost every literate person knows about the Internet. You can't get a date in many communities if you don't have Facebook. Almost everyone has friends and families. Indians working on remote farms do use their phones to get news. Think how ubiquitous SMS'ing is in schools, even in less affluent areas. WeChat is replacing that.</span></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif">The data on (non-) results was very clear when you looked. Some were poverty pimps, but most were idealistic people hoping to do good work. Like all of us, their confirmation bias made it hard for them to see their failure. </font><span style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">The U.S. spent $100's of millions on "promoting broadband adoption." The results were invisible in the broadband data. I looked at a dozen programs more closely and none of them had good evidence they had worked.* </span><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">
</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif">If Digital Literacy programs taught people how to tell when the government is lying, that would be a justification. But they shouldn't be promoted for bringing more people online unless there's good evidence they work.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span>Comcast's $10 for poor families with kids has hundreds of thousands of signups, showing the power of low prices for many. Almost certainly that program has connected more people than ten years promoting "broadband adoption." </span></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">There are now something like 10M Americans now connected on smartphones who weren't connected at home. Many of them are in the "Lifeline" phone plan they want to cut back. ISOC should be active on that one.</span> With what we spend on D.C. advocacy, we could have an impact.<br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif">The failure of the adoption programs should have been easy to predict. The telcos spent $tens of millions promoting broadband but discovered it didn't have results. They shifted their advertising to product features "Cable faster than DSL") because they couldn't find a way to make promotion work.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif">In 15 years reporting broadband adoption, I haven't been finding programs that work. I've also asked the experts for any examples and they have almost none in the U.S. (I don't have evidence outside the U.S.) Verizon now charges > $70 for their cheapest FiOS connection. Nearly a thousand dollars a year is a lot to many people, myself included.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"> I'd welcome pointers from anyone to programs with solid evidence they work. I asked some community network folks a similar question and found some. </font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"> Implicit in the survey summary was an assumption more effort should be put into adoption programs. I hear similar in ISOC and other advocacy groups.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"> I think we should back off on promoting projects unless/until we find some that work.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"> Again, I'd much rather be proved wrong on the value here.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif">Dave</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="">* Several programs gave results estimated by the amount they spent or how many people might have listened to a radio program. They found some figure somewhere for how many people would connect per dollar spent and multiplied. The program was run by a good guy who was also a master cya bureaucrat who encouraged this. The California program was so bad they should have been investigated for fraud.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Editor, <a href="http://Fastnet.news" target="_blank">http://Fastnet.news</a> <a href="http://wirelessone.news" target="_blank">http://wirelessone.news</a> <a href="http://gfastnews.com" target="_blank">gfastnews.com</a></div><div dir="ltr">Author with Jennie Bourne DSL (Wiley) and Web Video: Making It Great, Getting It Noticed (Peachpit)</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 5:48 AM, Prateek Pathak <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pathakprateek28@gmail.com" target="_blank">pathakprateek28@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Great work,Glenn!</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, 9 May 2018, 18:21 Glenn McKnight, <<a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" target="_blank">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr">This is a survey by NTEN of Non Profits in the US <div>I converted it to a Ebook </div><div><a href="http://online.fliphtml5.com/gnel/wvdl/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://online.fliphtml5.com/<wbr>gnel/wvdl/</a></div><div><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_7363618026192059735m_411670216683839245gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Glenn McKnight</div><div dir="ltr">NARALO Secretariat<br><a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a><br>skype gmcknight<br>twitter gmcknight</div><div>289-830 6259<br>.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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