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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-IE link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Nicolas, what do you mean by ‘effective’? Do you want to know if this is meets legal requirements, or if it is changing people’s awareness, or if people are changing their behaviour? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Brandt Dainow<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:brandt.dainow@gmail.com">brandt.dainow@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brandt_Dainow">https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brandt_Dainow</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/brandt.dainow">http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/brandt.dainow</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Nicolas CHAGNY [mailto:nicolas.chagny@isoc.fr] <br><b>Sent:</b> 27 April 2018 11:17<br><b>To:</b> brandt.dainow@gmail.com<br><b>Cc:</b> Andrea Romaoli Garcia; Chapter Delegates<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates] URGENT - Question about Facebook and GDPR in your respective country<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you all.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We know the context and the adaptation of the law in each country.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>And we know the Facebook's announcement about the modification of the <span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;background:white'>terms of service.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;background:white'>But, the reason of my e-mail is to know is this is really effective ;)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;background:white'>Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Nicolas</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>2018-04-27 12:11 GMT+02:00 Brandt Dainow <<a href="mailto:brandt.dainow@gmail.com" target="_blank">brandt.dainow@gmail.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>All Facebook users outside USA and Canada have had their terms of service changed. All EU users will be asked to consent to new usage under GDPR rules, and the Facebook terms/conditions have already been updated to reflect this. Current legal opinion is that these are not sufficient for GDPR, but there is time for Facebook to change them before GDPR becomes effective May 25. Or Facebook may wait for legal challenge.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>All Facebook users outside the EU, USA and Canada have had their terms of service changed. Their consent to this is not required. Under previous terms, everyone outside North America was governed under the Irish rules, having their contract with the European headquarters of Facebook in Ireland. They have now been moved to a contract with the USA Headquarters and now under the USA rules. I think it noteable that Mark Zuckerberg specifically told US Congress this would NOT happen a few days before he did it.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>HOWEVER – each EU country must enact legislation to bring GDPR into law in their country. Many EU countries have not done so yet. The Irish legislation, governing all Facebook users in the EU, has not been passed. It has encountered difficulties because it contains clauses removing all data protection from any political activities during elections. In other words, EU citizens will not have a right to privacy over their political opinions or activities, and all the stuff we saw with Cambridge Analytica will be legal under Irish law. The law specifically allows these activities in any country provided they are done from Ireland. The proposed law also removes any penalties from government departments which violate data protection laws. They will be required to obey the laws, but can’t be punished if they break them.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Brandt Dainow</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:brandt.dainow@gmail.com" target="_blank">brandt.dainow@gmail.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brandt_Dainow" target="_blank">https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brandt_Dainow</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/brandt.dainow" target="_blank">http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/brandt.dainow</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Chapter-delegates [mailto:<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrea Romaoli Garcia<br><b>Sent:</b> 27 April 2018 10:38<br><b>To:</b> Nicolas CHAGNY<br><b>Cc:</b> Chapter Delegates<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates] URGENT - Question about Facebook and GDPR in your respective country</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hello<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="m_248654998270410853AppleMailSignature"><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Here in Brazil I received from Instagram and Facebook just sent me a warning that Facebook will send in next days... <o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="m_248654998270410853AppleMailSignature"><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="m_248654998270410853AppleMailSignature"><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>ANDRÉA ROMAOLI GARCIA <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>OABSP 332.542<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Director ISOC-NY <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>United Nations- NU<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>+55 14 99162-3774<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 27 Apr 2018, at 04:59, Nicolas CHAGNY <<a href="mailto:nicolas.chagny@isoc.fr" target="_blank">nicolas.chagny@isoc.fr</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>We are working today with the french press agency AFP about the GDPR.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>In France this week, Facebook’s users received some notifications from Facebook to agree their new Term of Services and to have an explicit consent.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>With this journalist, we want to know if this Facebook’s process concerns :<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>only french users<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>or EU users<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>or out of EU users <o:p></o:p></li></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Could you please tell me- in reply of the email - if you or some users in your respective country received this notification and process ?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Warm regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Nicolas<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>-- <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>Nicolas Chagny, Président</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Internet Society France</b><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>+33 6 74 97 82 23</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'><a href="http://www.isoc.fr" target="_blank">isoc.fr</a> - <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org" target="_blank">internetsociety.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>Suivez : <a href="http://twitter.com/isoc_france" target="_blank">@isoc_france</a> - <a href="https://twitter.com/nicochagny" target="_blank">@nicochagny</a></span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>_______________________________________________<br>As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed<br>to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society<br>Chapter Portal (AMS): <a href="https://portal.isoc.org" target="_blank">https://portal.isoc.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>Nicolas Chagny, Président</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Internet Society France</b><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>+33 6 74 97 82 23<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.5pt'><a href="http://www.isoc.fr" target="_blank">isoc.fr</a> - <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org" target="_blank">internetsociety.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>Suivez : <a href="http://twitter.com/isoc_france" target="_blank">@isoc_france</a> - <a href="https://twitter.com/nicochagny" target="_blank">@nicochagny</a></span></i><span style='font-size:9.5pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>