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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/03/2018 07:59, Andrea Romaoli
Garcia wrote:<br>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">I don't feel the work hampered by
the participation of others but a little bit control will be
positive.</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">The way ISOC is set up today allows
a work oriented to local needs.</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">I add that Chaptor NY has a greater
responsibility and visibility because it drives the other
chapters and brings new subjects to discuss for other
instituitionscaround the world.</div>
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- What do you mean by ISOC NY 'drives the other chapters'? <br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sfbayisoc.org">www.sfbayisoc.org</a><br>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">A little bit of control is needed
but volunteers input can identify new solutions that the
meetings routine extinguishes.</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">I don't live in the United States
but I've been serving shelters in Washington for
volunteering... Well... stakeholders and member must work
together </div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">There are volunteers and
stakeholder with technical ability that is helpful. But I
think we should control a hight level to maintain the quality
of the discussions and close the doors to those demagogues who
do nothing but just wish put their name in the highlightner</div>
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ANDRÉA ROMAOLI GARCIA
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<div>Director ISOC-NY </div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13pt;">ICANN Latin American and
Caribbean </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 13pt;">United Nations NY </span></div>
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On 30 Mar 2018, at 10:37, Sivasubramanian M <<a
href="mailto:6.Internet@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">6.Internet@gmail.com</a>>
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ISOC has been successful, we do not know if the
current structure has contributed to that success,
or if ISOC could have been more successful if
member-driven.</span></p>
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We can not possibly deny that ICANN would be more successful
nor assert that it would be less successful in a
member-driven scenario. What I said was that it worked. </div>
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I agree with Dave completely, the reality is giving
members control is contrary to the founding
documents and formal structure of ISOC. ISOC is
not, and never has been, a community of members, or
democratic. It is a Trust, organised around
managing a perpetual flow of income. Members do not
contribute to that income, and are therefore
powerless. Article V.1 states “Individual members
shall not have any voting rights with respect to the
Society.” </span></p>
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founding documents probably did not anticipate ISOC to
take shape as a Community with several hundred
'volunteers' of good Technical and Policy expertise.
ISOC unwittingly imparts the impression of a Community
driven organization, and it is this perception that
renders credibility to ISOC's policy advice. <span> </span></div>
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