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    <p>Hi Andrea, <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/03/2018 07:59, Andrea Romaoli
      Garcia wrote:<br>
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        <div id="AppleMailSignature">I don't feel the work hampered by
          the participation of others but a little bit control will be
          positive.</div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">The way ISOC is set up today allows
          a work oriented to local needs.</div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">I add that Chaptor NY has a greater
          responsibility and visibility because it drives the other
          chapters and brings new subjects to discuss for other
          instituitionscaround the world.</div>
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    - What do you mean by ISOC NY 'drives the other chapters'? <br>
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    Susannah <br>
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    San Francisco Bay Area Internet Society Chapter<br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.sfbayisoc.org">www.sfbayisoc.org</a><br>
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        <div id="AppleMailSignature">A little bit of control is needed
          but volunteers  input can identify new solutions  that the
          meetings routine extinguishes.</div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">I don't live in the United States
          but I've been serving shelters in Washington for
          volunteering...  Well... stakeholders and member must work
          together </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">There are volunteers  and
          stakeholder with technical ability that is helpful. But I
          think we should control a hight level  to maintain the quality
          of the discussions and close the doors to those demagogues who
          do nothing but just wish put their name in the highlightner</div>
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        ANDRÉA ROMAOLI GARCIA 
        <div>OABSP 332.542</div>
        <div>Director ISOC-NY  </div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 13pt;">ICANN Latin American and
            Caribbean </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 13pt;">United Nations NY </span></div>
        <div>+55 14 99162-3774</div>
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        On 30 Mar 2018, at 10:37, Sivasubramanian M <<a
          href="mailto:6.Internet@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">6.Internet@gmail.com</a>>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">While
                    ISOC has been successful, we do not know if the
                    current structure has contributed to that success,
                    or if ISOC could have been more successful if
                    member-driven.</span></p>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">​Agreed.
            We can not possibly deny that ICANN would be more successful
            nor assert that it would be less successful in a
            member-driven scenario. What I said was that it worked. </div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">While
                    I agree with Dave completely, the reality is giving
                    members control is contrary to the founding
                    documents and formal structure of ISOC.  ISOC is
                    not, and never has been, a community of members, or
                    democratic.  It is a Trust, organised around
                    managing a perpetual flow of income.  Members do not
                    contribute to that income, and are therefore
                    powerless.  Article V.1 states “Individual members
                    shall not have any voting rights with respect to the
                    Society.”  </span></p>
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                  founding documents probably did not anticipate ISOC to
                  take shape as a Community with several hundred
                  'volunteers' of good Technical and Policy expertise.
                  ISOC unwittingly imparts the impression of a Community
                  driven organization, and it is this perception that
                  renders credibility to ISOC's policy advice. <span> </span></div>
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