<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>what lowers ISOC's participation stature in the ICANN environment is lack of adhesion to principles (if it happens), lack of coherence among representatives/members (if it happens), and low quality of contributions (if it happens.)</div><div><br></div><div>I fully agree with others that a SIG is not the only option, maybe not even the best; but then, we must make ourselves responsible for coordination among... our very own selves! </div><div><br></div><div>Alejandro Pisanty</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Sivasubramanian M <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:6.Internet@gmail.com" target="_blank">6.Internet@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Alejandro Pisanty <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:apisanty@gmail.com" target="_blank">apisanty@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>as some of us may remember, the first ISOC-in-ICANN meetings (2009) had as a clear objective the avoidance of surprises among us. We would often find that some chapters were supporting opposed options in ICANN policy. Coordination would be good but surprise avoidance is not a bad second best. For that purpose, an informal conversation is not bad but an agenda is much better.</div><div><br></div><div>At this ICANN meeting there is a big chance of ISOC losing ground because of insuffcient coordination on key issues like GDPR and whois, where we can expect European chapters to hold a strong pro-GDPR position, and a wider spectrum among others. In general in ICANN ISOC chapters should, IMO, strive for focus on technical grounding of all decisions; prioritizing the stable, secure, robust and resilient operation of the DNS and other coordinated identifier systems, esp. vis-a-vis market creation; fight against mission creep (unnecessary expansion of ICANN activities beyond its mission); support transparency of all organizations (not only ICANN Board and staff but for example At Large member organizations); and contribute to organizational clarity (including: ICANN's reserves and budget; Reviews; the broader consequences of the IANA transition and the restructuring that has been following it.)</div><div><br></div><div>A very good example of what can go wrong is being actively provided in LACRALO. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Maybe an ICANN-interest SIG of ISOC chapters would be the necessary organizational form we need to adopt.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">I don't feel that it is right to form this as an interest group or SIG. That actually lowers the ISOC participation stature.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Please contact me offlist if there is any interest to follow up on such an idea. The name and focus does not have to be "ICANN" as we have more-general concerns included in all of the above.</div><div><br></div><div>Yours,</div><div><br></div><div>Alejandro Pisanty</div><div><br></div><div>I will not be attending the meeting but will gladly convey information about an ISOC chapters-and-members meeting to our Chair and members so they can attend. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_3427289822693386227h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Sivasubramanian M <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:6.Internet@gmail.com" target="_blank">6.Internet@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">Hello</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">I am from ISOC India Chennai Chapter. I feel that we should have our usual ISOC@ICANN meeting, without a set pattern of a formal meeting, but as a meeting that encourages an informal conversation.</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">Sivasubramanian M</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 6:03 PM, Sarah Kiden <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:skiden@gmail.com" target="_blank">skiden@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>SIG Women and ISOC Uganda also represented. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Yes, we need a meet and greet. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Sarah </div><div><div class="m_3427289822693386227m_-6091510371998548315m_801695762603861657h5"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div>On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 17:26 Susannah Gray <<a href="mailto:susannah.gray@gmail.com" target="_blank">susannah.gray@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
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<div class="m_3427289822693386227m_-6091510371998548315m_801695762603861657m_-5587792836952851644m_-5583846262494659988moz-cite-prefix">On 10/03/2018 17:21, Seun Ojedeji
wrote:<br>
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<div>Some Nigeria Chapter members(like myself) are here as well,
will be good to meet (if there is an agenda)<br>
</div>
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- At this late stage I assume it will need to be more of a
social/meet 'n greet type thing! <br></div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<br>
Susannah <br></div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<blockquote type="cite">
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Regards<br>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Olga
Cavalli <span><<a href="mailto:olgacavalli@gmail.com" target="_blank">olgacavalli@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>Hi,
<div>some members of the ISOC Argentina chapter we are
here as well.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Lets organize someting!!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Proposals? </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>best</div>
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<div>Olga</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2018-03-10 16:49 GMT-04:00
Susannah Gray <span><<a href="mailto:susannah.gray@gmail.com" target="_blank">susannah.gray@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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<p>I'm here from the SF Bay Area Chapter, as
is Leah Symekher (previous President,
current project leader). <br>
</p>
<p>It would be great to organise an informal
meeting at some point so we can all say hi
to each other!</p>
<p>Susannah <br>
</p>
<p>--<br>
President <br>
San Francisco Bay Area Internet Society
Chapter<br>
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<div dir="auto">The Interim Chair and
Secretary of ISOC-Guyana are
currently in attendance at ICANN61</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">Best regards </div>
<br>
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<div>On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 3:47 PM
Hans Petter Holen <<a href="mailto:hph@oslo.net" target="_blank">hph@oslo.net</a>>
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<div dir="auto">The treasurer of
ISOC Norway Chapter will be
there. </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">-hph</div>
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<div>On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 at
14:45, Flávio Rech Wagner
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I am
the President of the Brazil
Chapter and I am also here
in San Juan.<br>
Also Demi Getschko, the
Vice-President of our
Chapter, is here.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Flavio<br>
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Às 16:41 de 10/03/2018,
Christine Arida escreveu:<br>
> Hello all,<br>
> I am from the Chapter
of Egypt (board member) and
am here in San Juan
attending ICANN61 ..<br>
> Best,<br>
> Christine Arida<br>
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> Subject: Re:
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><br>
> From Internet of Food
SIG leadership, I am at
ICANN61.<br>
><br>
> Patrik<br>
><br>
> On 10 Mar 2018, at
15:06, Yrjö Länsipuro wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi all,<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> From the Finnish
Chapter there are at least
Juhani Juselius (the new
President) and myself
attending.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Best,<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Yrjö<br>
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>> Hi<br>
>> A few board members
are attending.<br>
>> Olga, Glenn, John
Levine and Alice<br>
>><br>
>> Please outreach to
us<br>
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>> G<br>
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wrote:<br>
>> Hello,<br>
>><br>
>> I’m also attending
as an ICANN fellow. I don’t
believe there’s an ISOC
social. But we can all meet,
there are so many ISOC-ers
here.<br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>><br>
>> On Mar 9, 2018, at
17:16, JOHN MORE <<a href="mailto:morej1@mac.com" target="_blank">morej1@mac.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:morej1@mac.com" target="_blank">morej1@<wbr>mac.com</a>>>
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>><br>
>> ISOC-DC also has a
number attending. No social
I am aware of.<br>
>><br>
>> John<br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>><br>
>> On Mar 9, 2018, at
5:10 PM, Joly MacFie <<a href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com" target="_blank">joly@punkcast.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com" target="_blank">joly<wbr>@punkcast.com</a>>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ISOC-NY has three
members participating (that
I know of) in ICANN 61 -
Avri Doria, Greg Shatan, and
Olivier Crepin-Leblonde.<br>
>><br>
>> Will there be an
ISOC social?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
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