<div><div dir="auto">Todd wrote in the AC list that they didn’t get big amounts — something that was expected, given there’s no incentives, if one pays. I hope he’ll post the answer here, as well. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 12:27 Glenn McKnight <<a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Thanks Todd. I am also curious on the positive and negative feedback. <div><br></div><div>Interesting i don't do the day to day admin for ISOC Canada anymore and I haven't heard from their staff if they got any confusion on the annual membership impact. Its possible some people perceived it as the same notice and paid only one of the two. Not sure. <br>Regardless, we always felt that ISOC membership should include a fee and vice versa it should spell out clearly the benefits. </div></div><div><div><br>G</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-701842190164287772gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Glenn McKnight</div><div>NARALO Secretariat<br><a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" target="_blank">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a><br>skype gmcknight<br>twitter gmcknight</div><div>289-830 6259<br>.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Todd M. Tolbert <span><<a href="mailto:tolbert@isoc.org" target="_blank">tolbert@isoc.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Good Day Alexander,<div><br></div><div>You are correct, and thank you for the reminder. We have been gathering the results and working to put together not only the output, but some learnings from it. I have just posted in the Chapter Advisory Council community on <a href="http://Connect.internetsociety.org" target="_blank">Connect.internetsociety.org</a>. A small deck provides the output you are requesting here. <br><br><div id="m_-701842190164287772m_-2327356690727529869AppleMailSignature">Thank you,<div>Todd</div><div><br></div><div>——</div><span class="m_-701842190164287772HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>Todd M. Tolbert</div><div>Chief Administrative Officer</div><div>Internet Society</div></font></span></div><div><div class="m_-701842190164287772h5"><div><br>On Jan 28, 2018, at 9:58 AM, Alexander Blom <<a href="mailto:alexander.blom@budgetphone.nl" target="_blank">alexander.blom@budgetphone.nl</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div><div>Hello Todd,<br><br></div>It has been some 2 months since your donation campaign and I am sure everyone is very curious about the results. Would you like to share them with the chapter-delegates list now? For instance, how much did you collect from our members, in total and per country? These would be really interesting numbers for all of us I think.<br><br></div>Thanks in advance!<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-701842190164287772m_-2327356690727529869gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div>Met vriendelijke groet,<br>Kind regards<br><br>Alexander Blom<br>Chairman of the Netherlands Chapter<br>The Netherlands<br><br>T <a href="tel:+31%2071%20581%205620" value="+31715815620" target="_blank">+31 (0)71 5815620</a><br>F <a href="tel:+31%2071%20581%205611" value="+31715815611" target="_blank">+31 (0)71 5815611</a><br><br></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-11-28 21:02 GMT+01:00 Todd M. Tolbert <span><<a href="mailto:tolbert@isoc.org" target="_blank">tolbert@isoc.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="white" link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div class="m_-701842190164287772m_-2327356690727529869m_-4257572688291344572WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hello Judith, we did not send the actual email campaign messages to any elists, or Connect. We sent them directly to the individual member’s email on record in the AMS. I have communicated with Glenn on his personal situation and we’ve cleared that up.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I hope that clarifies.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thank you,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Todd<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">Chapter-delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>> on behalf of Judith Hellerstein <<a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank">judith@jhellerstein.com</a>><br><b>Organization: </b>Hellerstein & Associates<br><b>Reply-To: </b>"<a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank">judith@jhellerstein.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank">judith@jhellerstein.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 10:48 AM<br><b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>>, Glenn Mcknight <<a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" target="_blank">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Chapter-delegates] Notification: Individual Donation campaign<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><p style="margin-left:.5in">HI Todd,<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:.5in">I just got one email from the Chapter delegates list on Connect and not the email version of it. Glenn perhaps you are only subscribed to the email Chapter Delegates and not the Connect version of it<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:.5in">Best,<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:.5in">Judith<u></u><u></u></p><pre style="margin-left:.5in">_________________________________________________________________________<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:.5in">Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:.5in">Hellerstein & Associates<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:.5in">3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:.5in">Phone: <a href="tel:(202)%20362-5139" value="+12023625139" target="_blank">(202) 362-5139</a> Skype ID: judithhellerstein<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:.5in">Mobile/Whats app: <a href="tel:(202)%20333-6517" value="+12023336517" target="_blank">+1202-333-6517</a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:.5in">E-mail: <a href="mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank">Judith@jhellerstein.com</a> Website: <a href="http://www.jhellerstein.com" target="_blank">www.jhellerstein.com</a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:.5in">Linked In: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/" target="_blank">www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/</a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:.5in">Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:.5in"><u></u> <u></u></pre><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On 11/28/2017 9:00 AM, Todd M. Tolbert wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hi Saul, </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I’m confused. To my knowledge there has been exactly one email campaign sent (just today) about fundraising for ISOC. If you have another one, please forward to me as I would love to see it and investigate where it came from. </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">It is not our intention to send every email (or any email other than a specific campaign) asking for donations. We do, however, send many informational emails that may ask for members to take action. But we will not specifically say that that action should be to donate. </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Only this fundraising campaign that we imagine doing twice a year would do so.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I hope that helps and look forward to receiving a forward of the email that you believe is asking for money.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thank you,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Todd</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">Saul Stein <a href="mailto:saul@enetworks.co.za" target="_blank"><saul@enetworks.co.za></a><br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 1:16 AM<br><b>To: </b>Todd Tolbert <a href="mailto:tolbert@isoc.org" target="_blank"><tolbert@isoc.org></a>, Eduardo Diaz <a href="mailto:eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com" target="_blank"><eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com></a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">"chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"</a> <a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank"><chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org></a><br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [Chapter-delegates] Notification: Individual Donation campaign</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Hi</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I see that this campaign is continuing…</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I have just received another email this month (Help Shape tomorrow) asking for donations. The unsubscribe doesn’t give me the option of only opting out of only donation based email…</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">If every email we receive is going to be about asking for money, I can assure you that membership will drop (or email will just be filtered). The link that one is asked to click on, isn’t even encrypted </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">L</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The unsubscribe option on the email also doesn’t work (or I can’t understand how to work it) as one is not able to check/uncheck subscription options…</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">My 2c…</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Saul</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Chapter-delegates [<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Todd M. Tolbert<br><b>Sent:</b> 14 November 2017 04:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> Eduardo Diaz <a href="mailto:eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com" target="_blank"><eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com></a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates] Notification: Individual Donation campaign</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Chapter Leaders,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">I appreciate this comment and all the others. They are not falling on deaf ears, I promise.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">I have postponed the campaign for now. I am interested now from this group, what the next steps would be to get to a point where we can come to an agreement that this test (in some form) should be run and attempted, with the support of the chapters.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in">I believe there is a Steering Committee meeting on Monday the 20th. I believe I return from my travels around the time that meeting is happening, so I will do everything in my power to be on the call.<u></u><u></u></p><div id="m_-701842190164287772m_-2327356690727529869m_-4257572688291344572AppleMailSignature"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Thank You, <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Todd<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in"><br>On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:59 AM, Eduardo Diaz <<a href="mailto:eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com" target="_blank">eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Todd: <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">ISOC should start to apply to itself the same multi-stakeholder mechanisms that it so much promotes around the world. The Chapter Advisory Council is one of those mechanisms. Use it.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">My recommendation going forward is to send a request for advice to the ChAC Steering Committee and let the ball roll there. This will give ISOC the chapter's insights and ideas on how to move ahead with this program. Even if the final ChAC advice is not 100% acceptable, at least all chapters will be aware of the program and consulted previous to launching it. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Reactions like you got from ISOC San Francisco and others (like ours) are an indication of how ISOC is still disconnected from its chapters.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">-ed<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">ISOC-PR<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:47 AM Evan Leibovitch <<a href="mailto:evan@telly.org" target="_blank">evan@telly.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">Hi Todd,</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">T</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div><div><div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">his campaign is the first in a long while from the Internet Society, it used to be a common practice and ISOC has raised money from individuals before. We haven’t done so in the last few years for several reasons, but mostly because we felt that our processes and mechanisms were not professional enough. <u></u><u></u></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">No, it wasn't all about processes. The creation of a chapter in Canada was originally started after the 1997 INET meeting in Montreal, but was cancelled because of an inability to reach agreement on revenue/solicitation sharing between HQ and Chapters (this was before the PIR windfall). As a result, there was no Canada chapter until a reboot effort started a few years ago. Some of the people involved in that original effort are on the Canada Chapter board now so they know the history.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">Broadly, the concept of ISOC fundraising from members independently from Chapters is not new, and has been controversial when it occurred in the past. Perhaps the plan's designers might have encountered more of this information and institutional memory, had Chapters been consulted in the planning stages rather than after everything was finalized.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="m_-701842190164287772m_-2327356690727529869m_-4257572688291344572m-720240266961539312gmail-msonormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Our reasons for doing this now are in line with our position as a global non-profit organization including diversity of our funding sources, which has been a stated goal of ISOC for years; to strengthen the mid and long term financial sustainability of the organization. And secondly, to maintain and strengthen the status as a non-profit organization that needs to meet certain rules of revenue sources.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">Section 2 of the ISOC bylaws state that its two advisory committees exist </span><span style="color:#0b5394">"<i>for the purpose of providing information and advice to the Board of Trustees and the President of the Internet Society on matters of strategic importance</i>". </span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">The whole reason some of us worked so hard to create a Chapters Advisory Council was to establish an appropriate bi-directional channel that would inform HQ about local sensibilities while then working together in international initiatives. </span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394"> Think global, act local.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">Surely a tax-status-related crisis of income diversity qualifies as 'strategic importance'. Why was the Chapters Advisory Council not asked for advice on this as the Bylaws explicitly indicate? Who made the call that this issue was not sufficiently strategic to consult Chapters in advance?</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">Had the ChAC been approached by staff and told "we need to diversify revenue sources from our community", you may have discovered a breadth of innovative approaches. The discussion of whether it is reasonable to have a nominal fee for ISOC membership may have proven useful. Or you may have come to the exact same conclusion as you have now, but this time with Chapters as enthusiastic allies rather than potential competitors for the same sustaining funding.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">Consider the fundraising model used by American public broadcasting. Consider that PBS doesn't do any membership or individual fundraising campaigns without the close collaboration of WETA, its local partner in Washington. Having parallel national and local campaigns could be a disaster.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="m_-701842190164287772m_-2327356690727529869m_-4257572688291344572m-720240266961539312gmail-msonormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">It is not the intent of this campaign to divert attention from the chapters or try to confuse the recipient at all.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">As you know -- or at least know by now -- there are Chapters that charge for membership, and some that do their own </span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">financial </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">solicitations of members based on </span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">local</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394"> initiatives. </span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">Starting</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394"> a </span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">solicitation </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">program now will catch them off </span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">-</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">guard and with very little time to determine how to work (or cope) with it. How can </span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">anyone</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394"> state definitively that these initiatives will not be confusing or competitive without having reached out to these Chapters -- either individually or through the Council?</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="m_-701842190164287772m_-2327356690727529869m_-4257572688291344572m-720240266961539312gmail-msonormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I believe the message will touch on the breadth and depth of what the community does in the world and that obviously includes the work in the chapters. Both messages will go out on our standard mailer format which has been used to this list for the entirety of 2017.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">At worst, this is a potential for direct conflict with some Chapters.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">At best, this is a missed opportunity to let the Chapters Advisory Council fulfill its Bylaw role as an integral part of the ISOC decision-making process. ISOC can't be a trusted advocate for multi-stakeholder approaches to Internet governance when it ignores its own internal multi-stakeholder structures. There is a further missed opportunity in that shutting Chapters out of the campaign architecture reduces the potential for a network of local champions once the donation campaigns are launched.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#0b5394">To use a tennis metaphor, this is an unforced error. Not too late to fix.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">-- <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Evan Leibovitch<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Toronto, Canada<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Em: evan at telly dot org<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Sk: evanleibovitch<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Tw: el56<u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">_______________________________________________<br>As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed<br>to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society<br>Chapter Portal (AMS): <a href="https://portal.isoc.org" target="_blank">https://portal.isoc.org</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br><br><br><u></u><u></u></span></p><pre style="margin-left:.5in">_______________________________________________<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:.5in">As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:.5in">to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:.5in">Chapter Portal (AMS): <a href="https://portal.isoc.org" target="_blank">https://portal.isoc.org</a><u></u><u></u></pre></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br><br><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>
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