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<p>Thanks Veni for your wise and sage advice. <font
face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Let's try to stay focused
and build bridges, even... especially when we are under time
pressure. <br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I too agree there is no
need to attack the staff that is just an ad hominem attack that
no one needs. All the ISOC staff that I have interacted with
have been very professional and I have found them to be
generally very helpful. Glad to see that Todd has pulled back.
I do think it was a mistake to release this project without
going through the chapter advisory council and be discussed
there. So glad to see that this is now being done. This is your
place to be heard. There are many innovative ways to go about
these issues. Many of us support the diversity of resources.
One main problem here was that people were taken by surprise and
that is never good. If the program had been properly discussed
then changes could be made to the program that would make it an
even better program and have higher chances of success. For
these programs to succeed everyone needs to think they have had
a hand in it and have some sense of ownership. When something is
seen to be forced on a group that makes it harder to accept and
people are put on the defensive and this is never good.</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">So as Veni say Let's
take a deep breath and begin to build bridges and figure out a
solution that works</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Cheers</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Judith Hellerstein<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/14/2017 12:18 PM, Veni Markovski
wrote:<br>
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">+1, John.<br>
<br>
There's no need to attack the staff. We have been interacting
with the ISOC staff on several projects, involving ISOC Bulgaria
board, and external organizations that we work with, and they
are actually pretty decent people. We can't generalize for all
staff, in any case. <br>
Having said that, there's always an argument about giving money
to a foreign-based organization vs a local based. In some
countries this may be considered strange, in others if you give
money to local organizations, you may deduct it from your taxes
(that's the case in the USA). Of course, Susannah's concerns are
also to be taken into account and consideration.<br>
<br>
Evan said it's an unforced error, which could be fixed, and I
see that Todd has already reacted that way. <br>
<br>
Let's try to stay focused and build bridges, even... especially
when we are under time pressure. <br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/14/17 10:55, John More wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:7964CF5E-60BE-47F9-8578-269C3BFA7F16@mac.com">
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Brandt
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I find you email incredibly offensive and
misinformed. Linking this initiative to raise funds to the
scandals in Ireland is pure trolling. You might want to get
Trump to help you.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Yes, this could have and should have been rolled
out with early input from Chapters, but it not having been is
no basis for the position you have taken or your attacks.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">John More<br class="">
<div><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On Nov 14, 2017, at 9:28 AM, Brandt Dainow
<<a href="mailto:brandt.dainow@gmail.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">brandt.dainow@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;
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0px;">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">This is another example of why we need
better control of staff. This is almost certainly
contrary to the new ISOC data protection
initiative. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">Ireland has had several charity scandals
which have resulted in very strict rules regarding
non-profit organisations after several charities
misused donations. I am in the processing of
going through very strict examinations to form
ISOC Ireland. A key part of getting government
permission to form has been ISOC Ireland’s written
commitment we will not seek donations in Ireland.
That makes a huge difference to getting permission
because it means the government doesn’t have to
worry about us misusing Irish donations or doing
money laundering, and means we can avoid many
regulatory requirements. I can try explaining to
the government that ISOC Ireland is separate from
the Internet Society, but it’s a distinction they
are unlikely to understand, and probably won’t
accept. And I don’t need the extra work. There
is even a possibility I could be deemed to be
Ireland’s ISOC representative and held responsible
by the government for a) making false claims about
our activities b) not complying with charity
regulations c) not complying with tax reporting
regulations d) violating Irish regulations which
forbid donation campaigns by unregistered
charities. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">I am not sure at this stage what impact
this will have on me, but I don’t need any further
complications in an environment which is now
actively hostile to not-for-profit agencies. I
would imagine the same problem is now going to
arise for chapters in countries such as Russia and
India.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">I am, to be frank, tired of an
out-of-touch staff and central office doing things
which mess everyone else around – Catalonia, the
recent mess with the amended chapter’s agreement,
etc. I have come to the conclusion no one is
managing the staff. It looks like total chaos in
which staff members do whatever they feel like,
tell no one what they are doing, don’t really
understand either the internet or the Internet
Society, barely recognise the existence of the
chapters, and have no management control.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">Let me speak plainly – NOTHING should be
worked on by staff without prior knowledge of the
policy groups, the chapter leaders, and the
members. The original idea for this donation
drive should have been announced on the website,
with opportunity for comment and input, then
designed in an open fashion through a suitable
public forum.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">Staff need to change their understanding
of who they are. They do not run the Internet
Society. They work for the members. They
shouldn’t be allowed to do anything without the
knowledge of the members and, where members wish
it, their permission.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">I have to say, at this stage, I am not
sure the Internet Society is fit for purpose
anymore. It really needs to undertake a major
reform, or simply close.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">Regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">Brandt Dainow<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><a href="mailto:brandt.dainow@gmail.com"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">brandt.dainow@gmail.com</a><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><a
href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brandt_Dainow"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brandt_Dainow</a><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><a
href="http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/brandt.dainow"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/brandt.dainow</a><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
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font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,
sans-serif;" class="" lang="EN-US"><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Chapter-delegates
[<a
href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>]<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b
class="">On Behalf Of<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Eduardo
Diaz<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>14
November 2017 12:59<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Todd M.
Tolbert<br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>;<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:isocpr-board-group-list@googlegroups.com"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">isocpr-board-group-list@googlegroups.com</a><br
class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[Chapter-delegates] Notification: Individual
Donation campaign<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class="">Todd:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class="">ISOC should start to apply to
itself the same multi-stakeholder mechanisms
that it so much promotes around the world. The
Chapter Advisory Council is one of those
mechanisms. Use it.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class="">My recommendation going forward
is to send a request for advice to the ChAC
Steering Committee and let the ball roll there.
This will give ISOC the chapter's insights and
ideas on how to move ahead with this program.
Even if the final ChAC advice is not 100%
acceptable, at least all chapters will be aware
of the program and consulted previous to
launching it. <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class="">Reactions like you got from
ISOC San Francisco and others (like ours) are an
indication of how ISOC is still disconnected
from its chapters.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class="">-ed<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class="">ISOC-PR<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;" class="">On Tue, Nov 14,
2017 at 4:47 AM Evan Leibovitch <<a
href="mailto:evan@telly.org" style="color:
purple; text-decoration: underline;"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">evan@telly.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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New Roman", serif;" class=""><span
style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;
color: rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="">Hi
Todd,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
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font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;" class=""><span
style="font-family: Tahoma,
sans-serif; color: rgb(11, 83,
148);" class="" lang="EN-US">T<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
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Roman", serif;" class=""><span
class="" lang="EN-US">his
campaign is the first in a long
while from the Internet Society,
it used to be a common practice
and ISOC has raised money from
individuals before. We haven’t
done so in the last few years
for several reasons, but mostly
because we felt that our
processes and mechanisms were
not professional enough.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">No, it wasn't
all about processes. The creation
of a chapter in Canada was
originally started after the 1997
INET meeting in Montreal, but was
cancelled because of an inability
to reach agreement on
revenue/solicitation sharing
between HQ and Chapters (this was
before the PIR windfall). As a
result, there was no Canada
chapter until a reboot effort
started a few years ago. Some of
the people involved in that
original effort are on the Canada
Chapter board now so they know the
history.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">Broadly, the
concept of ISOC fundraising from
members independently from
Chapters is not new, and has been
controversial when it occurred in
the past. Perhaps the plan's
designers might have encountered
more of this information and
institutional memory, had Chapters
been consulted in the planning
stages rather than after
everything was finalized.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
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<div class="">
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<p
class="m-720240266961539312gmail-msonormal"
style="margin-right: 0cm;
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font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"
class="" lang="EN-US">Our
reasons for doing this now are
in line with our position as a
global non-profit organization
including diversity of our
funding sources, which has been
a stated goal of ISOC for years;
to strengthen the mid and long
term financial sustainability of
the organization. And secondly,
to maintain and strengthen the
status as a non-profit
organization that needs to meet
certain rules of revenue
sources.</span><span class=""
lang="EN-US"><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">Section 2 of the
ISOC bylaws state that its two
advisory committees exist </span><span
style="color: rgb(11, 83, 148);"
class="">"<i class="">for the
purpose of providing information
and advice to the Board of
Trustees and the President of the
Internet Society on matters of
strategic importance</i>". </span><span
style="font-family: Tahoma,
sans-serif; color: rgb(11, 83,
148);" class="">The whole reason
some of us worked so hard to create
a Chapters Advisory Council was to
establish an appropriate
bi-directional channel that would
inform HQ about local sensibilities
while then working together in
international initiatives.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class=""> Think
global, act local.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">Surely a
tax-status-related crisis of
income diversity qualifies as
'strategic importance'. Why was
the Chapters Advisory Council not
asked for advice on this as the
Bylaws explicitly indicate? Who
made the call that this issue was
not sufficiently strategic to
consult Chapters in advance?</span><span
style="font-family: Tahoma,
sans-serif; color: rgb(11, 83,
148);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">Had the ChAC
been approached by staff and told
"we need to diversify revenue
sources from our community", you
may have discovered a breadth of
innovative approaches. The
discussion of whether it is
reasonable to have a nominal fee
for ISOC membership may have
proven useful. Or you may have
come to the exact same conclusion
as you have now, but this time
with Chapters as enthusiastic
allies rather than potential
competitors for the same
sustaining funding.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">Consider the
fundraising model used by American
public broadcasting. Consider that
PBS doesn't do any membership or
individual fundraising campaigns
without the close collaboration of
WETA, its local partner in
Washington. Having parallel national
and local campaigns could be a
disaster.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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<div class="">
<div class="">
<blockquote style="border-style: none none
none solid; border-left-width: 1pt;
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padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin: 5pt
0cm 5pt 4.8pt;" class="" type="cite">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="m-720240266961539312gmail-msonormal"
style="margin-right: 0cm;
margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"
class="" lang="EN-US">It is not
the intent of this campaign to
divert attention from the
chapters or try to confuse the
recipient at all.</span><span
class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">As you know --
or at least know by now -- there are
Chapters that charge for membership,
and some that do their own<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">financial <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">solicitations of
members based on<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">local<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class=""> initiatives.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">Starting<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class=""> a<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">solicitation
<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">program now will
catch them off<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">-<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">guard and with
very little time to determine how to
work (or cope) with it. How can<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">anyone<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class=""> state
definitively that these initiatives
will not be confusing or competitive
without having reached out to these
Chapters -- either individually or
through the Council?</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<blockquote style="border-style: none none
none solid; border-left-width: 1pt;
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padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin: 5pt
0cm 5pt 4.8pt;" class="" type="cite">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="m-720240266961539312gmail-msonormal"
style="margin-right: 0cm;
margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"
class="" lang="EN-US">I believe
the message will touch on the
breadth and depth of what the
community does in the world and
that obviously includes the work
in the chapters. Both messages
will go out on our standard
mailer format which has been
used to this list for the
entirety of 2017.</span><span
class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">At worst, this
is a potential for direct conflict
with some Chapters.</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">At best, this
is a missed opportunity to let the
Chapters Advisory Council fulfill
its Bylaw role as an integral part
of the ISOC decision-making
process. ISOC can't be a trusted
advocate for multi-stakeholder
approaches to Internet governance
when it ignores its own internal
multi-stakeholder structures.
There is a further missed
opportunity in that shutting
Chapters out of the campaign
architecture reduces the potential
for a network of local champions
once the donation campaigns are
launched.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">To use a
tennis metaphor, this is an
unforced error. Not too late to
fix.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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New Roman", serif;" class="">--<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;" class="">Evan
Leibovitch<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;" class="">Toronto,
Canada<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<blockquote style="margin: 5pt 0cm
5pt 30pt;" class="" type="cite">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;" class="">Em:
evan at telly dot org<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;" class="">Sk:
evanleibovitch<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;" class="">Tw:
el56<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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