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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">+1, John.<br>
<br>
There's no need to attack the staff. We have been interacting with
the ISOC staff on several projects, involving ISOC Bulgaria board,
and external organizations that we work with, and they are
actually pretty decent people. We can't generalize for all staff,
in any case. <br>
Having said that, there's always an argument about giving money to
a foreign-based organization vs a local based. In some countries
this may be considered strange, in others if you give money to
local organizations, you may deduct it from your taxes (that's the
case in the USA). Of course, Susannah's concerns are also to be
taken into account and consideration.<br>
<br>
Evan said it's an unforced error, which could be fixed, and I see
that Todd has already reacted that way. <br>
<br>
Let's try to stay focused and build bridges, even... especially
when we are under time pressure. <br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/14/17 10:55, John More wrote:<br>
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Brandt
<div class=""><br class="">
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<div class="">I find you email incredibly offensive and
misinformed. Linking this initiative to raise funds to the
scandals in Ireland is pure trolling. You might want to get
Trump to help you.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Yes, this could have and should have been rolled out
with early input from Chapters, but it not having been is no
basis for the position you have taken or your attacks.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">John More<br class="">
<div><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On Nov 14, 2017, at 9:28 AM, Brandt Dainow
<<a href="mailto:brandt.dainow@gmail.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">brandt.dainow@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div class="">
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
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class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">This is another example of why we need
better control of staff. This is almost certainly
contrary to the new ISOC data protection
initiative. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">Ireland has had several charity scandals
which have resulted in very strict rules regarding
non-profit organisations after several charities
misused donations. I am in the processing of going
through very strict examinations to form ISOC
Ireland. A key part of getting government
permission to form has been ISOC Ireland’s written
commitment we will not seek donations in Ireland.
That makes a huge difference to getting permission
because it means the government doesn’t have to
worry about us misusing Irish donations or doing
money laundering, and means we can avoid many
regulatory requirements. I can try explaining to
the government that ISOC Ireland is separate from
the Internet Society, but it’s a distinction they
are unlikely to understand, and probably won’t
accept. And I don’t need the extra work. There is
even a possibility I could be deemed to be Ireland’s
ISOC representative and held responsible by the
government for a) making false claims about our
activities b) not complying with charity regulations
c) not complying with tax reporting regulations d)
violating Irish regulations which forbid donation
campaigns by unregistered charities. <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">I am not sure at this stage what impact
this will have on me, but I don’t need any further
complications in an environment which is now
actively hostile to not-for-profit agencies. I
would imagine the same problem is now going to arise
for chapters in countries such as Russia and India.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">I am, to be frank, tired of an out-of-touch
staff and central office doing things which mess
everyone else around – Catalonia, the recent mess
with the amended chapter’s agreement, etc. I have
come to the conclusion no one is managing the
staff. It looks like total chaos in which staff
members do whatever they feel like, tell no one what
they are doing, don’t really understand either the
internet or the Internet Society, barely recognise
the existence of the chapters, and have no
management control.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">Let me speak plainly – NOTHING should be
worked on by staff without prior knowledge of the
policy groups, the chapter leaders, and the
members. The original idea for this donation drive
should have been announced on the website, with
opportunity for comment and input, then designed in
an open fashion through a suitable public forum.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">Staff need to change their understanding of
who they are. They do not run the Internet
Society. They work for the members. They shouldn’t
be allowed to do anything without the knowledge of
the members and, where members wish it, their
permission.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">I have to say, at this stage, I am not sure
the Internet Society is fit for purpose anymore. It
really needs to undertake a major reform, or simply
close.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">Regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class="">Brandt Dainow<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><a href="mailto:brandt.dainow@gmail.com"
style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">brandt.dainow@gmail.com</a><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><a
href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brandt_Dainow"
style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brandt_Dainow</a><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><a
href="http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/brandt.dainow"
style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/brandt.dainow</a><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
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font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,
sans-serif;" class="" lang="EN-US"><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Chapter-delegates
[<a
href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org"
style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>]<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On
Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Eduardo
Diaz<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>14 November
2017 12:59<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Todd M.
Tolbert<br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>;<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:isocpr-board-group-list@googlegroups.com"
style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">isocpr-board-group-list@googlegroups.com</a><br
class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[Chapter-delegates] Notification: Individual
Donation campaign<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class="">Todd:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class="">ISOC should start to apply to
itself the same multi-stakeholder mechanisms that
it so much promotes around the world. The Chapter
Advisory Council is one of those mechanisms. Use
it.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class="">My recommendation going forward
is to send a request for advice to the ChAC
Steering Committee and let the ball roll there.
This will give ISOC the chapter's insights and
ideas on how to move ahead with this program. Even
if the final ChAC advice is not 100% acceptable,
at least all chapters will be aware of the program
and consulted previous to launching it. <o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class="">Reactions like you got from ISOC
San Francisco and others (like ours) are an
indication of how ISOC is still disconnected from
its chapters.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class="">-ed<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class="">ISOC-PR<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",
serif;" class="">On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:47 AM
Evan Leibovitch <<a
href="mailto:evan@telly.org" style="color:
purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">evan@telly.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times
New Roman", serif;" class=""><span
style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;
color: rgb(11, 83, 148);" class="">Hi
Todd,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
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<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;" class=""><span
style="font-family: Tahoma,
sans-serif; color: rgb(11, 83,
148);" class="" lang="EN-US">T<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
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</div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span class="" lang="EN-US">his
campaign is the first in a long
while from the Internet Society,
it used to be a common practice
and ISOC has raised money from
individuals before. We haven’t
done so in the last few years for
several reasons, but mostly
because we felt that our processes
and mechanisms were not
professional enough.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
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</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">No, it wasn't
all about processes. The creation of
a chapter in Canada was originally
started after the 1997 INET meeting
in Montreal, but was cancelled
because of an inability to reach
agreement on revenue/solicitation
sharing between HQ and Chapters
(this was before the PIR windfall).
As a result, there was no Canada
chapter until a reboot effort
started a few years ago. Some of the
people involved in that original
effort are on the Canada Chapter
board now so they know the history.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">Broadly, the
concept of ISOC fundraising from
members independently from Chapters
is not new, and has been
controversial when it occurred in
the past. Perhaps the plan's
designers might have encountered
more of this information and
institutional memory, had Chapters
been consulted in the planning
stages rather than after everything
was finalized.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
</div>
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<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<p
class="m-720240266961539312gmail-msonormal"
style="margin-right: 0cm;
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font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""
lang="EN-US">Our reasons for doing
this now are in line with our
position as a global non-profit
organization including diversity
of our funding sources, which has
been a stated goal of ISOC for
years; to strengthen the mid and
long term financial sustainability
of the organization. And secondly,
to maintain and strengthen the
status as a non-profit
organization that needs to meet
certain rules of revenue sources.</span><span
class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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</blockquote>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
</div>
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<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11, 83,
148);" class="">Section 2 of the ISOC
bylaws state that its two advisory
committees exist </span><span
style="color: rgb(11, 83, 148);"
class="">"<i class="">for the purpose
of providing information and advice
to the Board of Trustees and the
President of the Internet Society on
matters of strategic importance</i>". </span><span
style="font-family: Tahoma,
sans-serif; color: rgb(11, 83, 148);"
class="">The whole reason some of us
worked so hard to create a Chapters
Advisory Council was to establish an
appropriate bi-directional channel
that would inform HQ about local
sensibilities while then working
together in international initiatives.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class=""> Think global,
act local.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">Surely a
tax-status-related crisis of income
diversity qualifies as 'strategic
importance'. Why was the Chapters
Advisory Council not asked for
advice on this as the Bylaws
explicitly indicate? Who made the
call that this issue was not
sufficiently strategic to consult
Chapters in advance?</span><span
style="font-family: Tahoma,
sans-serif; color: rgb(11, 83,
148);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">Had the ChAC
been approached by staff and told
"we need to diversify revenue
sources from our community", you may
have discovered a breadth of
innovative approaches. The
discussion of whether it is
reasonable to have a nominal fee for
ISOC membership may have proven
useful. Or you may have come to the
exact same conclusion as you have
now, but this time with Chapters as
enthusiastic allies rather than
potential competitors for the same
sustaining funding.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11, 83,
148);" class="">Consider the
fundraising model used by American
public broadcasting. Consider that PBS
doesn't do any membership or
individual fundraising campaigns
without the close collaboration of
WETA, its local partner in Washington.
Having parallel national and local
campaigns could be a disaster.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<blockquote style="border-style: none none
none solid; border-left-width: 1pt;
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin: 5pt 0cm
5pt 4.8pt;" class="" type="cite">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="m-720240266961539312gmail-msonormal"
style="margin-right: 0cm;
margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""
lang="EN-US">It is not the intent
of this campaign to divert
attention from the chapters or try
to confuse the recipient at all.</span><span
class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11, 83,
148);" class="">As you know -- or at
least know by now -- there are
Chapters that charge for membership,
and some that do their own<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">financial <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11, 83,
148);" class="">solicitations of
members based on<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">local<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11, 83,
148);" class=""> initiatives.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">Starting<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11, 83,
148);" class=""> a<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">solicitation <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11, 83,
148);" class="">program now will catch
them off<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">-<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11, 83,
148);" class="">guard and with very
little time to determine how to work
(or cope) with it. How can<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">anyone<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11, 83,
148);" class=""> state definitively
that these initiatives will not be
confusing or competitive without
having reached out to these Chapters
-- either individually or through the
Council?</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<blockquote style="border-style: none none
none solid; border-left-width: 1pt;
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin: 5pt 0cm
5pt 4.8pt;" class="" type="cite">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="m-720240266961539312gmail-msonormal"
style="margin-right: 0cm;
margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""
lang="EN-US">I believe the message
will touch on the breadth and
depth of what the community does
in the world and that obviously
includes the work in the chapters.
Both messages will go out on our
standard mailer format which has
been used to this list for the
entirety of 2017.</span><span
class="" lang="EN-US"><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11, 83,
148);" class="">At worst, this is a
potential for direct conflict with
some Chapters.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">At best, this is
a missed opportunity to let the
Chapters Advisory Council fulfill
its Bylaw role as an integral part
of the ISOC decision-making process.
ISOC can't be a trusted advocate for
multi-stakeholder approaches to
Internet governance when it ignores
its own internal multi-stakeholder
structures. There is a further
missed opportunity in that shutting
Chapters out of the campaign
architecture reduces the potential
for a network of local champions
once the donation campaigns are
launched.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family:
"Times New Roman", serif;"
class=""><span style="font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: rgb(11,
83, 148);" class="">To use a tennis
metaphor, this is an unforced error.
Not too late to fix.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times
New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p
class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times
New Roman", serif;" class="">--<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;" class="">Evan
Leibovitch<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;" class="">Toronto,
Canada<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<blockquote style="margin: 5pt 0cm
5pt 30pt;" class="" type="cite">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;" class="">Em:
evan at telly dot org<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;" class="">Sk:
evanleibovitch<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: "Times New
Roman", serif;" class="">Tw:
el56<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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