<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">+1<div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 7, 2017, at 2:24 AM, Nadira Alaraj <<a href="mailto:nadira.araj@gmail.com" class="">nadira.araj@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">Thanks Dave,</div><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">We all have to be thankful for ISOC move towards its attempts to make its bottom up motto a working structure. The creation of the Chapters Advisory Council (ChAC) was one of these steps in achieving that. I believe of small strides at a time than a complete restructuring the current working model. </div><div dir="auto" class="">However, there is still more work to be done on the Chapters level. </div><div dir="auto" class="">There is a need to identify how active is th active chapters are because of the dynamic political environment which goes on the country level, some chapters have to freeze their activities because of that challenges. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">One expects that at least each chapter to have a representative at the ChAC but in reality it is not the case. Adding, those who have representation hardly attend any of the 3 annual meetings. </div><div dir="auto" class="">This might give the impression that there an ISOC structure of ghost chapters. </div><div dir="auto" class="">I agree with you that we need to make a stronger chapters. But how to make ISOC have a role in this an email thread or even creating a group to keep the dialog going on to feed into the ChAC to make the ideas a practical working actions. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 6, 2017 5:23 PM, "Dave Burstein" <<a href="mailto:daveb@dslprime.com" target="_blank" class="">daveb@dslprime.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class=""><blockquote class="m_127454612844669827quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Folks</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" class="">After 160 comments, Joyce has just announced the right move. Rather than staff making a final, definitely inappropriate s</font>et of rules for the chapters, the next proposal "will be presented to the Chapters AC Steering Committee for revision and we will work with them to identify next steps. ... I’m confident that together we can find a consensus that is acceptable to all."</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">This is a good, early step toward "multi-stakeholder" decisionma<wbr class="">king in ISOC. (I prefer to say democratic.)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">All, please. Let's follow this up with a frank, clear, and effective discussion on making ISOC more democratic. People from over half the active chapters spoke up. Please continue to do so.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">This isn't about a few personalities, it's about stronger chapters that will make ISOC more effective. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Almost all of us are here because we care about a great Internet for everyone. We need substantial action, not just vague "high order principles" and more talk. We need a staff who understand top down decisionmaking holds back the work.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default">The next step is to approve the Chapters proposal that has been pending for almost a year and a half. That would allow chapters to send delegates to events, decide how to spend the grand total of 3% of the ISOC budget, be consulted when staff are presenting to the governments in their country, and more.</div><div class="gmail_default"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default">That was blocked for now in a closed session of the board, with no public reason given beyond "we have to control all the money."</div><div class="gmail_default"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default">Gonzalo, Kathy, all - let's make it so and start working together. </div><div class="gmail_default"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default">Anyone who doesn't understand that should be politely educated about what ISOC stands for.</div><font color="#888888" class=""><div class="gmail_default"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default">Dave Burstein</div><div class="gmail_default"><br class=""></div>-- <br class=""><div class="m_127454612844669827m_6711360434857208698gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Editor, Fast Net News, WIreless One.news, Net Policy News and DSL Prime<br class="">Author with Jennie Bourne DSL (Wiley) and Web Video: Making It Great, Getting It Noticed (Peachpit)</div></div></div></div></div></div>
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