<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear John,</div><div><br></div><div>Can't agree with you more, well said :)</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>--<br>Best Regards,</div><div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><br></div><div><b>Sohaib Saleem</b></div><div>V. Lecturer <a href="http://www.kicsit.edu.pk" target="_blank">KICSIT</a></div><div>President <a href="http://www.isocibd.org.pk" target="_blank">ISOC PK IBD</a></div><div>Vice President <a href="http://www.osfp.org.pk" target="_blank">OSFP</a></div><div>Member Program Committee <a href="http://2017.pksig.pk" target="_blank">pkSIG</a></div><div>+ 92 300 9195902</div><div><font color="#006699"></font><span style="color:black"><a href="http://pk.linkedin.com/in/sohaibsaleem" target="_blank"><font color="#1155cc">http://pk.linkedin.com/in/sohaibsaleem</font></a> </span></div><div><span style="color:black"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/sohaib.saleem" target="_blank"><font color="#1155cc">https://www.facebook.com/sohaib.saleem</font></a></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:22 PM, John More <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:morej1@mac.com" target="_blank">morej1@mac.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Dear Carlos<div><br></div><div>I think you are being unfair and I have to disagree with your flat statement that “this is not a bottom up process at all”.  There has been a lot of input already from these lists, including the Chapter Delegates lists.  There have been great suggestions made, especially about the need to have more flexibility and room for Chapters in jurisdictions where a strict requirement could present problems. There were significant changes made from the first draft.  A new version reflecting this round of comments entirely is appropriate.  No document can be written that is just a compilation of comments.</div><div><br><div>
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<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Sep 6, 2017, at 9:52 AM, Carlos Vera <<a href="mailto:cveraq@gmail.com" target="_blank">cveraq@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-5995984324343742238Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">"<span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Please stay tuned for the next version, I’m confident that together we can find a consensus that is acceptable to all."</span></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">Agree with Brandt. This is not a bottom up process at all. </div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">The right instance for the agreement for being write from zero is necessary is the <span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Chapters Advisory Council and The chair of the bottom up working group must take this challenge for the workgroup and for the Chapters Advisory Council itself so we can participate from the very beginning under the right methodology including building the principles of the agreement: not intervention, self regulation of chapters, real participation as a decision making instance, and much more. </span></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">With those principles in mind will be time to write an agreement.</span></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Carlos Vera</span></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Isoc Ecuador </span></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br>On Sep 6, 2017, at 7:11 AM, Joyce Dogniez <<a style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:dogniez@isoc.org" target="_blank">dogniez@isoc.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" type="cite"><div><div class="m_-5995984324343742238WordSection1"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">Dear Brandt,<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">Thanks for your message.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">Indeed there is still a lot of discussion going on, which is obviously encouraged and welcomed.<span class="m_-5995984324343742238Apple-converted-space"> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">Having said that at some point we need to recap the comments made and understand how they can best be addressed.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">Which is why we had a one month period of comment.<span class="m_-5995984324343742238Apple-converted-space"> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">It may indeed well be that while going through all the comments and feedbacks there are areas that still need further discussion or that some of the clauses need to be reviewed, revised, clarified or simply removed.<span class="m_-5995984324343742238Apple-converted-space"> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">As was discussed early on the list, the agreement has been put together with initial feedback from Chapters and has been reviewed by the Chapters Advisory Council before posting on the list.<span class="m_-5995984324343742238Apple-converted-space"> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">There is surely no intention of dictating… the final version, or updated version if you prefer (you are right, the choice of word could have been better<span class="m_-5995984324343742238Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'Apple Color Emoji'">☺</span><span style="font-size:11pt">), will be presented to the Chapters AC Steering Committee for revision and we will work with them to identify next steps.<span class="m_-5995984324343742238Apple-converted-space"> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">Please stay tuned for the next version, I’m confident that together we can find a consensus that is acceptable to all.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"> <u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">Warm regards<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt">Joyce</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><b><span>From:<span class="m_-5995984324343742238Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span>Brandt Dainow <<a style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:brandt.dainow@gmail.com" target="_blank">brandt.dainow@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Reply-To:<span class="m_-5995984324343742238Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:brandt.dainow@gmail.com" target="_blank">brandt.dainow@<wbr>gmail.com</a>" <<a style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:brandt.dainow@gmail.com" target="_blank">brandt.dainow@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Date:<span class="m_-5995984324343742238Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday, 6 September 2017 at 11:54<br><b>To:<span class="m_-5995984324343742238Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Joyce Dogniez <<a style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:dogniez@isoc.org" target="_blank">dogniez@isoc.org</a>>, "<a style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates@elists.<wbr>isoc.org</a>" <<a style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates@elists.<wbr>isoc.org</a>><br><b>Subject:<span class="m_-5995984324343742238Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>RE: [Chapter-delegates] Comments and feedback on revised charter agreement</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">With the greatest respect, I do not think these discussions have reached a state where conclusions can be drawn, and I personally resent being told that this discussion is over.  Perhaps I am mistaken, but my understanding from your email is that you will now create the final version of the chapter agreement.  If that is the case, then I also resent being told that you and (unknown) other people in central will decide the final version of the new chapter agreement.  These discussions have shown that the days have passed where national chapters will accept central office dictating to them in such a fashion.</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">If you want to attempt to summarise positions, and propose a new agreement for consideration by chapters, that is acceptable to me.  However, I really don’t think you can legitimately do anything more than that.  </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I propose that no new chapter agreement be finalised without the agreement of two-thirds of the national chapters, and that each national chapter determine how it will vote through formal agreement of its members.  We should bear in mind national members will be bound by the agreement, especially if they ever serve on their national committee.  It is contrary to democratic principles and the principles of justice that someone be bound by changes in rules they haven’t agreed to.  I am aware we currently lack a formal method for chapters to vote on such matters.  So I suggest we develop something as soon as possible.</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I suggest that this chapter delegates forum continue to discuss this issue as we feel appropriate.  </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Regards,</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Brandt Dainow</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:brandt.dainow@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">brandt.dainow@gmail.com</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brandt_Dainow" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">https://www.researchgate.net/<wbr>profile/Brandt_Dainow</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" href="http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/brandt.dainow" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">http://www.imediaconnection.<wbr>com/profiles/brandt.dainow</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma"><span class="m_-5995984324343742238Apple-converted-space"> </span>Chapter-delegates [<a style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">mailto:chapter-delegates-<wbr>bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>]<span class="m_-5995984324343742238Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="m_-5995984324343742238Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Joyce Dogniez<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="m_-5995984324343742238Apple-converted-space"> </span>06 September 2017 10:15<br><b>To:</b><span class="m_-5995984324343742238Apple-converted-space"> </span><a style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates@elists.<wbr>isoc.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="m_-5995984324343742238Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Chapter-delegates] Comments and feedback on revised charter agreement</span><u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"> <u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">Dear Chapter leaders,</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">I want to thank you for your constructive feedback and comments on the revised charter agreement.<span class="m_-5995984324343742238Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">As the deadline for comments was end of August, we will now start to compile the comments and see how to best address them in the final version.  This will be done by the end of the month.</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">I have also received some comments from Chapters on specific local situations, I will get back to all of you as soon as possible on those.<span class="m_-5995984324343742238Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">I know some of you are still waiting for some legal feedback locally, please contact me off list to let me know of any specific issues.</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">Again thanks a lot for your input.</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">Warm regards</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">Joyce</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt">— </span><u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt">Joyce Dogniez, CMM</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt">Senior Director Global Engagement</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt">Internet Society</span><u></u><u></u>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As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed<br>
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