<p dir="ltr">I think you are on the right track Vint. In my view quarterly reports should suffice.<br>
I understand why admin. team would like to be toe to toe with developments at the local level. It improves credibility of the entire organization and efficiency of response mechanisms where applicable.<br>
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<div>On Aug 10, 2017, at 8:30 AM, Brandt Dainow <<a href="mailto:brandt.dainow@gmail.com" target="_blank">brandt.dainow@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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However, people want to interpret it, there is no doubt that promoting ISOC aims to “community leaders, press and regulators” has a clear aim of influencing policy development within a country. There are many other ISOC objectives which can also be fulfilled,
but which do not risk controversy. While we have focused on legal limits on foreign-funded organisations, there are plenty of countries where this will generate wider social resentment, especially in countries with strong anti-colonialist or anti-US interference
feelings. Helping people get access to internet services, promoting technical standards, offering education, etc., are not activities which are likely to attract anything but positive reactions. There is plenty any chapter can do to promote ISOC aims without
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><span class="m_-7299278707638580370m_3598595075654567804Apple-converted-space"> </span>Chapter-delegates
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<b>To:</b><span class="m_-7299278707638580370m_3598595075654567804Apple-converted-space"> </span>ISOC Chapter Delegates<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="m_-7299278707638580370m_3598595075654567804Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Chapter-delegates] ISOC donations/Beyond the Net<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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Interesting article from<span class="m_-7299278707638580370m_3598595075654567804Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://transparency.org/" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">transparency.org</a><span class="m_-7299278707638580370m_3598595075654567804Apple-converted-space"> </span> on the closing down of Civil
Society in Azerbaijian and the their rules on not accepting monies from abroad. <br>
As discussed before we need to be aware on how some chapters are at risk <u></u><u></u></div>
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<a href="https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/azerbaijan_closing_down_civil_society" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://www.transparency.org/n<wbr>ews/feature/azerbaijan_closing<wbr>_down_civil_society</a><br clear="all">
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