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<div class="">Thank you Vint. </div>
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<div class="">Regarding reporting - I'd like to see something more frequent than annually so that ISOC can put out a stream of notices during the year about what the chapters are doing but the 30 requirement is probably too tight. Could we make this a preference
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<div class="">On Aug 10, 2017, at 8:30 AM, Brandt Dainow <<a href="mailto:brandt.dainow@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">brandt.dainow@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="">I think it clear that the demand that all ISOC chapters must engage in political advocacy for ISOC objectives as a condition of being a chapter is unsustainable. However,
people want to interpret it, there is no doubt that promoting ISOC aims to “community leaders, press and regulators” has a clear aim of influencing policy development within a country. There are many other ISOC objectives which can also be fulfilled, but
which do not risk controversy. While we have focused on legal limits on foreign-funded organisations, there are plenty of countries where this will generate wider social resentment, especially in countries with strong anti-colonialist or anti-US interference
feelings. Helping people get access to internet services, promoting technical standards, offering education, etc., are not activities which are likely to attract anything but positive reactions. There is plenty any chapter can do to promote ISOC aims without
this restrictive clause. It is unsustainable as a formal command for chapter existence. If chapters want to do it, there is nothing to stop them, but it should not be compulsory.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div>
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<b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif" class=""><span class="m_3598595075654567804Apple-converted-space"> </span>Chapter-delegates
[<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank" class="">mailto:chapter-delegates-<wbr class="">bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>]<span class="m_3598595075654567804Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="m_3598595075654567804Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Glenn
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<b class="">To:</b><span class="m_3598595075654567804Apple-converted-space"> </span>ISOC Chapter Delegates<br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="m_3598595075654567804Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Chapter-delegates] ISOC donations/Beyond the Net<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div>
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Interesting article from<span class="m_3598595075654567804Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://transparency.org/" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">transparency.org</a><span class="m_3598595075654567804Apple-converted-space"> </span> on
the closing down of Civil Society in Azerbaijian and the their rules on not accepting monies from abroad. <br class="">
As discussed before we need to be aware on how some chapters are at risk <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div>
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