<div dir="ltr">while making it a requirement to report within 30 days seems excessive, it is in ISOC's and the chapters' interest to make visible their work in a timely way. By reporting more than once a year, ISOC can highlight the work of its chapters on a continuing basis and that's good for everyone. <div><br></div><div>vint</div><div><br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 8:51 AM, John More <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:morej1@mac.com" target="_blank">morej1@mac.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">I would agree that the specification that the promotion be made to “community leaders, press and regulators” presents problems and should be changed. I would have thought it sufficient to require activity in support of ISOC’s general purposes and leave it to the Chapters to determine what was an appropriate and allowable purpose. The purpose is to deal with zombie Chapters where all you have is a leadership that does nothing except perhaps promote itself.<div><br></div><div>I also find objectionable the requirement for informing staff within 30 days of completion of an activity/event. Why not just provide evidence annually about activities (including by newsletter, copies of event announcements).<br><div><br></div><div>The clause clearly needs revision. </div><div><br></div><div>John More</div><div><div><br class="m_-4856882437968907709Apple-interchange-newline">
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<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><div>On Aug 10, 2017, at 8:30 AM, Brandt Dainow <<a href="mailto:brandt.dainow@gmail.com" target="_blank">brandt.dainow@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-4856882437968907709Apple-interchange-newline"></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><div class="m_-4856882437968907709WordSection1" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I think it clear that the demand that all ISOC chapters must engage in political advocacy for ISOC objectives as a condition of being a chapter is unsustainable. However, people want to interpret it, there is no doubt that promoting ISOC aims to “community leaders, press and regulators” has a clear aim of influencing policy development within a country. There are many other ISOC objectives which can also be fulfilled, but which do not risk controversy. While we have focused on legal limits on foreign-funded organisations, there are plenty of countries where this will generate wider social resentment, especially in countries with strong anti-colonialist or anti-US interference feelings. Helping people get access to internet services, promoting technical standards, offering education, etc., are not activities which are likely to attract anything but positive reactions. There is plenty any chapter can do to promote ISOC aims without this restrictive clause. It is unsustainable as a formal command for chapter existence. If chapters want to do it, there is nothing to stop them, but it should not be compulsory.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Brandt Dainow<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href="mailto:brandt.dainow@gmail.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">brandt.dainow@gmail.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brandt_Dainow" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://www.researchgate.net/<wbr>profile/Brandt_Dainow</a><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href="http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/brandt.dainow" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://www.imediaconnection.<wbr>com/profiles/brandt.dainow</a><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><span class="m_-4856882437968907709Apple-converted-space"> </span>Chapter-delegates [<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">mailto:chapter-delegates-<wbr>bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>]<span class="m_-4856882437968907709Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="m_-4856882437968907709Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Glenn McKnight<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="m_-4856882437968907709Apple-converted-space"> </span>10 August 2017 12:18<br><b>To:</b><span class="m_-4856882437968907709Apple-converted-space"> </span>ISOC Chapter Delegates<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="m_-4856882437968907709Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Chapter-delegates] ISOC donations/Beyond the Net<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Interesting article from<span class="m_-4856882437968907709Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://transparency.org/" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">transparency.org</a><span class="m_-4856882437968907709Apple-converted-space"> </span> on the closing down of Civil Society in Azerbaijian and the their rules on not accepting monies from abroad. <br>As discussed before we need to be aware on how some chapters are at risk <u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><a href="https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/azerbaijan_closing_down_civil_society" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://www.transparency.org/<wbr>news/feature/azerbaijan_<wbr>closing_down_civil_society</a><br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Glenn McKnight<br><a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a><br>skype gmcknight<br>twitter gmcknight<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 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