<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29836"><b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29933"><font face="garamond, new york, times, serif" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29932">Hi Olivier</font></b></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29467"><b><font face="garamond, new york, times, serif"><br></font></b></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29426" dir="ltr"><b><font face="garamond, new york, times, serif">Hi Thato Mfikwe,</font></b></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29426" dir="ltr"><b><font face="garamond, new york, times, serif"><br></font></b></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29426" dir="ltr"><b><font face="garamond, new york, times, serif">Hi all<br><br>I agree with Thato Mfikwe,</font></b></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29426" dir="ltr"><b><font face="garamond, new york, times, serif"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29817">Alternatively ISOC can organise capacity building initiatives for Chapters<br></span><br>Best regards</font></b></div><div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29466"><b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29937"><font face="garamond, new york, times, serif" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29936"> </font></b></div><div class="signature" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29329"><div class="yui_3_2_0_15_132515017190452 yui_3_2_0_16_133157224725552" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29328"><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29327"><div class="yiv8086804813MsoNormal" id="yiv8086804813yui_3_16_0_1_1441652376535_12403" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div class="yiv2603201154MsoNormal" id="yiv2603201154yui_3_16_0_1_1454013379642_7680" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461764621140_2967" 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style="color:rgb(0, 0, 127);"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0, 32, 96);"><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><b>Contacts: </b></font></span></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 127);"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0, 32, 96);"><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></span></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 127);"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0, 32, 96);"><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><b>(+257) 79 928 007</b></font></span></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 127);"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0, 32, 96);"><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><b>( +257) 75 928 007</b></font></span></span></div><div><b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481897597269_38404" style="color:rgb(0, 32, 96);font-size:13.3333px;">(+41 ) 76 788 81 58 (sms only)<br><br>cubahiro@ties.itu.int<br>frcubahiro@gmail.com</b></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 127);"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0, 32, 96);"><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><b> </b></font></span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29799"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 127);"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0, 32, 96);"><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><b>Skype Id: lordwilmoore </b></font></span></span></div></div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29801"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0, 32, 96);"><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><b><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 127);font-size:16px;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0, 32, 96);"><br></span></span></b></font></span></div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29802"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0, 32, 96);"><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><b><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 127);font-size:16px;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0, 32, 96);">John 8:32: </span></span>"Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."</b></font></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="yui_3_2_0_15_132515017190452 yui_3_2_0_16_133157224725552"><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;"><div class="yiv8086804813MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div class="yiv2603201154MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461764621140_3028" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 127);font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;"></div></div></div></div></div></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29494"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29540" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29539"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29538"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29803"><font size="2" face="Arial"> Le Vendredi 10 mars 2017 16h09, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe@gmail.com> a écrit :<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29537"><div id="yiv4824927560"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29536"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29535">Hi Oliver,<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29611"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29665">I agree with Hans Dittler that people with no prior knowledge can be brought to speed to start engaging effectively in the IETF work if there is no relevant technical volunteer interested in participating.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29771"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489228518091_29772">Alternatively ISOC can organise capacity building initiatives for Chapters to start understanding and participating within IETF, thanks.</div></div><div class="yiv4824927560gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv4824927560gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Hans Peter Dittler <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:dittler@braintec-consult.de" target="_blank" href="mailto:dittler@braintec-consult.de">dittler@braintec-consult.de</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv4824927560gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv4824927560yqt2844156385" id="yiv4824927560yqt15769"><div lang="DE"><div class="yiv4824927560m_-8709716086049011466WordSection1"><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Dear Olivier,<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">dear all,<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">Overall I am absolutely in favor to support ideas for bringing more and new people into the IETF.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">I believe it is a good idea to activate chapters in the area of support for the IETF.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">It was already discussed if waving just the registration fee is enough to make the difference.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">My guess is it could help somewhat combined with some chapter support or some chapter created additional funding.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">It was also discussed that only inviting people to an IETF does not help<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">That is absolutely true. Having been part of the ISOC fellows program and having done IETF introduction tutorials I believe newcomers who are really guided (breakfast meetings every morning, multiple introduction talks from different working groups and other IETF people, one-to-one mentors during the meeting) have a good chance of coming to speed in the IETF <u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">It was also discussed that only people who have some insight should be taken into the program<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">Looking at the questions which are used to select the supported (or invited) people in the existing ISOC technical fellows program and the selection criteria used later on in the process you can see that being on IETF mailing lists or working on an IETF draft are asked and gives a higher ranking in the selection. Also the potential fellow is asked how he intends to continue with IETF work later and what local outreach he would have after being part of the IETF.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">It was also mentioned that the existing program is restricted to people from “emerging or developing economy”<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">My believe is that it would be much easier to extend the existing program to have an additional branch with different level of funding instead of inventing a completely new program.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">The additional group could be selected with no limitations of the origin but with an added chapter support requirement for chapters regional near to the IETF location.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">It was also asked if such a program needs coordination with IETF leadership<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">My answer is: yes absolutely (as all other activities by ISOC for the IETF)<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">Looking forward to see this proposal coming forward<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">Hans Peter<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">Hans Peter Dittler<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">CEO Braintec Netzwerk-Consulting<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">President <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://isoc.de/">ISOC.DE</a> (Internet Society German Chapter e.V.) <u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">Member of the Board of Trustees of the Internet Society<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv4824927560MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div></div></div><br clear="none">______________________________ _________________<br clear="none">
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