<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><img src="https://t.yesware.com/t/b3b03f93acb29dde874548d979c14638352bd06e/accfc53f2f2c367357c3bad9c1ffd987/spacer.gif" width="0" height="0" style="border: 0px; width: 0px; height: 0px; overflow: hidden;"><img src="http://t.yesware.com/t/b3b03f93acb29dde874548d979c14638352bd06e/accfc53f2f2c367357c3bad9c1ffd987/spacer.gif" width="0" height="0" style="border: 0px; width: 0px; height: 0px; overflow: hidden;"><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline">The 'Internet Invariants' paper that Olaf mentions right at the start is at <a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/internet-invariants-what-really-matters">https://www.internetsociety.org/internet-invariants-what-really-matters</a><div><br></div><br>Also there is more detailed IoT briefing for IETF97 at <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/blog/tech-matters/2016/11/rough-guide-ietf-97-internet-things">http://www.internetsociety.org/blog/tech-matters/2016/11/rough-guide-ietf-97-internet-things</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"></div><br></div><img src="https://t.yesware.com/t/b3b03f93acb29dde874548d979c14638352bd06e/969e88bf787c3d39c899f0e1cb398455/spacer.gif" style="border: 0px; width: 0px; height: 0px; overflow: hidden;" width="0" height="0"><img src="http://t.yesware.com/t/b3b03f93acb29dde874548d979c14638352bd06e/969e88bf787c3d39c899f0e1cb398455/spacer.gif" style="border: 0px; width: 0px; height: 0px; overflow: hidden;" width="0" height="0"><font face="yw-b3b03f93acb29dde874548d979c14638352bd06e-969e88bf787c3d39c899f0e1cb398455--to" style="display:none"></font></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 9:57 PM, Joly MacFie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com" target="_blank">joly@punkcast.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Since Seoul is 14 hours ahead of NYC this is just about to kick off!</div><div class="gmail_quote"> </div><div class="gmail_quote"><u></u><div class="m_4917597600436187822m_-6570794431554117750subscription-body-tag"><table style="width:100%;background:#dddddd" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><tbody><tr><td><span style="display:none!important"> joly posted: "Today Tuesday 15 November 2016 the Internet Society(ISOC) will present a briefing panel at the Internet Engineering Task Force meeting in Seoul, Korea (IETF 97). The briefing's theme is The I in IoT: Implications for a Global Open Internet. We will explor" </span><table class="m_4917597600436187822m_-6570794431554117750subscribe-body" style="width:100%;padding:10px" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="center"><tbody><tr><td><div style="direction:ltr;max-width:600px;margin:0 auto;overflow:hidden"><table class="m_4917597600436187822m_-6570794431554117750subscribe-wrapper" style="width:100%;background-color:#fff;text-align:left;max-width:1024px;min-width:320px;margin:0 auto" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" bgcolor="#ffffff"><tbody><tr><td><table class="m_4917597600436187822m_-6570794431554117750subscribe-header-wrap" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td> </td></tr></tbody></table><br><table style="width:100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="20" bgcolor="#ffffff"><tbody><tr><td><table style="width:100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td class="m_4917597600436187822m_-6570794431554117750the-post" valign="top"><div class="m_4917597600436187822m_-6570794431554117750post-content" style="direction:ltr;margin-top:1em;max-width:560px"><p style="direction:ltr;font-size:14px;line-height:1.4em;color:#444;font-family:'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;margin:0 0 1em"><a style="text-decoration:underline;color:#2585b2" href="http://isoc.org" target="_blank"><img class="m_4917597600436187822m_-6570794431554117750wp-image-8798" style="max-width:100%;height:auto;margin-bottom:12px;clear:both;float:right;margin-left:1em;padding:4px;background-color:white;border:1px solid #ccc" src="http://isoc-ny.org/p2/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/isoclogo-1.png" alt="Internet Society" border="0"></a>Today <strong>Tuesday 15 November 2016</strong> the <strong><a style="text-decoration:underline;color:#2585b2" href="http://isoc.org" target="_blank">Internet Society</a></strong>(ISOC) will present a briefing panel at the <strong><a style="text-decoration:underline;color:#2585b2" href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda/" target="_blank">Internet Engineering Task Force meeting</a></strong> in Seoul, Korea (IETF 97). The briefing's theme is <strong><a style="text-decoration:underline;color:#2585b2" href="https://www.internetsociety.org/internet-society-briefing-panel-ietf-97" target="_blank">The I in IoT: Implications for a Global Open Internet</a>. </strong>We will explore how the internet shapes the design of smart objects, and how they in turn will shape the architecture of the internet. Are there general guidelines with respect to security and overall behavior for these new devices? What should designers of smart object architectures take into account because of the interaction between devices and the internet? Panelists: <strong>Carsten Bormann</strong>, Universität Bremen; <strong>Erica Johnson</strong>, University of New Hampshire InterOperability Laboratory; <strong>Michael Koster</strong>, Samsung/SmartThings; H<strong>annes Tschofenig</strong>, ARM Limited; <strong>Juan Carlos Zúñiga</strong>, SIGFOX. Moderator: <strong>Olaf Kolkman</strong>, Internet Society. The briefing will be webcast live on the <strong><a style="text-decoration:underline;color:#2585b2" href="https://youtu.be/wiZwxU-p9T4" target="_blank">ISOC Tech Matters YouTube Channel</a></strong>.</p><p style="direction:ltr;font-size:14px;line-height:1.4em;color:#444;font-family:'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;margin:0 0 1em"><strong>What: ISOC@IETF97 <a style="text-decoration:underline;color:#2585b2" href="https://www.internetsociety.org/internet-society-briefing-panel-ietf-97" target="_blank">The I in IoT: Implications for a Global Open Internet</a><br> Where: Seoul, Korea<br> When: Tuesday 15 November 2016 12pm-1:30pm KST | 03:00-04:30 UTC<br> Webcast: <a style="text-decoration:underline;color:#2585b2" href="https://youtu.be/wiZwxU-p9T4" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/wiZwxU-p9T4</a><br> Twitter: #ISOC + IoT <a style="text-decoration:underline;color:#2585b2" href="http://bit.ly/2ezWMmZ" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/2ezWMmZ</a></strong></p></div><p class="m_4917597600436187822m_-6570794431554117750subscribe-action-links" style="direction:ltr;font-size:14px;line-height:1.4em;color:#666;font-family:'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;margin:0 0 1em;padding:0;width:auto;padding-top:1em;padding-bottom:0em;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;padding-left:0"> </p><table class="m_4917597600436187822m_-6570794431554117750auto-width" style="width:auto" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td style="width:10px"><a style="text-decoration:none;color:#fff;border-radius:10em;border:1px solid #11729e;background-color:#2585b2;padding:5px 15px;font-size:16px;line-height:1.4em;font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight:normal;margin-left:0;white-space:nowrap" href="http://isoc-ny.org/p2/8797#respond" target="_blank">Comment</a></td><td> <a class="m_4917597600436187822m_-6570794431554117750subscribe-action-link" style="text-decoration:underline;color:#2585b2" href="http://isoc-ny.org/p2/8797#comments" target="_blank">See all comments</a></td></tr></tbody></table><p> </p></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table><table class="m_4917597600436187822m_-6570794431554117750subscribe-wrapper-sub" style="width:100%;background-color:#efefef;text-align:left;border-top:1px solid #ddd" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="20" bgcolor="#efefef"><tbody><tr><td class="m_4917597600436187822m_-6570794431554117750subscribe-content" style="border-top:1px solid #f3f3f3;color:#888;font-family:'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;background:#efefef"><p style="direction:ltr;font-size:12px;line-height:1.4em;color:#444;font-family:'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;margin:0px 0px 10px 0px"> </p><p style="direction:ltr;font-size:12px;line-height:1.4em;color:#444;font-family:'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;margin:0px 0px 0px 0px"> </p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline"><strong>Permalink</strong></div><br> <a style="text-decoration:underline;color:#2585b2" href="http://isoc-ny.org/p2/8797" target="_blank">http://isoc-ny.org/p2/8797</a><p> </p></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table><table class="m_4917597600436187822m_-6570794431554117750subscribe-footer-wrap" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td> </td></tr></tbody></table></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table><img src="http://pixel.wp.com/b.gif?blog=10787942&post=8797&subd=isoc-ny.org&ref=&email=1&email_o=jetpack&host=jetpack.wordpress.com" alt="" width="1" height="1" border="0"></div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div class="m_4917597600436187822gmail_signature"> </div></font></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"></font></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="m_4917597600436187822gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>---<br><span>Joly MacFie <span title="Call with Google Voice"><span id="m_4917597600436187822gc-number-35" class="m_4917597600436187822gc-cs-link" title="Call with Google Voice"><a href="tel:218%20565%209365" value="+12185659365" target="_blank">218 565 9365</a></span></span> Skype:punkcast</span><br>------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>--<br>-</div></div></div>
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