+1<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Em qui, 25 de ago de 2016 às 18:27, Babar Zahoor <<a href="mailto:babar@linuxurducbts.com">babar@linuxurducbts.com</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">+1<div class="gmail_extra"></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 1:54 AM, Louis Houle <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:louis.houle@oricom.ca" target="_blank">louis.houle@oricom.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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ISOC Quebec
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<div>Le 2016-08-21 à 13:40, Alejandro
Pisanty a écrit :<br>
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<div>it would be easier to discuss if the number "19" were
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<div>There will always be a question about large numbers of
non-participating chapters - like this decision itself.</div>
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AM, avri doria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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The ChAC Steering Committee has reviewed "A proposal
for greater<br>
involvement of Chapters in the position and policy
brief development<br>
process" (below & attached) and is submitting
it to the Chapter Council<br>
for approval.<br>
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Decisions by the ChAC are governed by the Rules
& Procedure paragraph 6<br>
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> Substantive decisions, in particular regarding
advice and<br>
> recommendations, shall be made by the AC.
Decisions may be made by<br>
> electronic means (e.g. E-Mail, electronic
voting systems, etc.) or<br>
> during remote (audio/video conferencing) or
physical meetings.<br>
> Decisions shall normally be taken by consensus
(meaning lack of formal<br>
> opposition). If consensus cannot be achieved,
then the Chair of the AC<br>
> Steering Committee shall organize a vote. In
case of voting, decisions<br>
> shall be taken by a majority vote of the
delegates to the AC. The<br>
> quorum shall be nineteen (19) delegates. In
case of tie, the matter<br>
> will be resubmitted for discussion and a new
vote. Votes will be<br>
> secret. The tally of votes (for, against,
abstain, did not vote) will<br>
> be published. Abstentions will be counted
towards determining the quorum.<br>
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At this point I would like to open discussion on
this proposal for the<br>
next week - until 8/27 1200 UTC. At that point I
will initiate a<br>
consensus call on the document, including any
changes that may be<br>
warranted as part of the discussion. This consensus
call will also be<br>
scheduled for 1 week. Should the document not meet
with consensus, I<br>
will then request that we continue discussion on it
and will bring it to<br>
a vote.<br>
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Thank you<br>
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Avri Doria<br>
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(for the ChAC SC)<br>
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*A proposal for greater involvement of Chapters in
the position and<br>
policy brief development process*<br>
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*Background*<br>
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In the past, there have been occasions when ISOC
staff met with national<br>
policy makers without involving the national chapter
in any way. Since<br>
national chapters often have good relations with
national officials, it<br>
would be preferable if the chapters are also
involved in meetings with<br>
national officials. We propose a recommendation
below to that effect.<br>
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At present, there does not seem to be a consistent
practice within ISOC<br>
regarding the role of the membership in the policy
development<br>
process and the preparation of background and
position papers that ISOC<br>
puts forward. Specifically, some policy papers are
submitted to the<br>
membership for comment, specifically the policy
briefs, while others<br>
papers, such as position papers, are not. In one
case, the membership<br>
was not informed of a specific submission. It
appears to us that<br>
systematic consultation with the membership can only
improve the quality<br>
of a policy, background paper, or position paper.
The intent is not to<br>
change ISOC's current decision-making process for
such papers: staff<br>
would remain fully responsible for the final version
of the paper. The<br>
intent is to allow staff to benefit systematically
from the views of the<br>
membership, and to decide whether or how to
incorporate comments from<br>
the membership. We propose a recommendation below to
that effect.<br>
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*Recommendations*<br>
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Review with the relevant chapters, policy positions
and alliances before<br>
they are made, and inform them of meetings with
national policy<br>
makers, unless time constraints do not permit it. We
have active mailing<br>
lists that can make it quick and easy.<br>
<br>
In general, policy, background and position papers,
including policy<br>
briefs should be submitted to the membership for
comment prior to<br>
publication, with the understanding that staff
retains full ownership<br>
for the final version. Staff can choose the most
appropriate method to<br>
consult the membership, for example by asking for
volunteers to review<br>
drafts, by posting a draft for comment to a mailing
list, by convening a<br>
virtual meeting to discuss the issues, etc.<br>
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Further, when papers are published and/or submitted
to some entity<br>
outside ISOC, the membership should be informed and
a link to the paper<br>
should be sent to the appropriate mailing list and
to the Chapter<br>
Delegate's mailing list just prior to the
publication or submission.<br>
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