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Flavio Kenji Yanai je 26.8.2016 ob 2:42 napisal:<br>
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<div>Le 2016-08-21 à 13:40, Alejandro Pisanty a
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<div>it would be easier to discuss if the
number "19" were replaced by a percentage
or fraction of the total. Some may
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<div>There will always be a question about
large numbers of non-participating
chapters - like this decision itself.</div>
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<div><span>Thank
you <br>
Jahangir
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug
20, 2016 at 1:11 AM, avri doria <span
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ChAC delegates,<br>
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The ChAC Steering Committee has
reviewed "A proposal for greater<br>
involvement of Chapters in the
position and policy brief
development<br>
process" (below & attached)
and is submitting it to the
Chapter Council<br>
for approval.<br>
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Decisions by the ChAC are
governed by the Rules &
Procedure paragraph 6<br>
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> Substantive decisions, in
particular regarding advice and<br>
> recommendations, shall be
made by the AC. Decisions may be
made by<br>
> electronic means (e.g.
E-Mail, electronic voting
systems, etc.) or<br>
> during remote (audio/video
conferencing) or physical
meetings.<br>
> Decisions shall normally be
taken by consensus (meaning lack
of formal<br>
> opposition). If consensus
cannot be achieved, then the
Chair of the AC<br>
> Steering Committee shall
organize a vote. In case of
voting, decisions<br>
> shall be taken by a
majority vote of the delegates
to the AC. The<br>
> quorum shall be nineteen
(19) delegates. In case of tie,
the matter<br>
> will be resubmitted for
discussion and a new vote. Votes
will be<br>
> secret. The tally of votes
(for, against, abstain, did not
vote) will<br>
> be published. Abstentions
will be counted towards
determining the quorum.<br>
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At this point I would like to
open discussion on this proposal
for the<br>
next week - until 8/27 1200
UTC. At that point I will
initiate a<br>
consensus call on the document,
including any changes that may
be<br>
warranted as part of the
discussion. This consensus call
will also be<br>
scheduled for 1 week. Should
the document not meet with
consensus, I<br>
will then request that we
continue discussion on it and
will bring it to<br>
a vote.<br>
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Thank you<br>
<br>
Avri Doria<br>
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(for the ChAC SC)<br>
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*A proposal for greater
involvement of Chapters in the
position and<br>
policy brief development
process*<br>
<br>
*Background*<br>
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In the past, there have been
occasions when ISOC staff met
with national<br>
policy makers without involving
the national chapter in any way.
Since<br>
national chapters often have
good relations with national
officials, it<br>
would be preferable if the
chapters are also involved in
meetings with<br>
national officials. We propose a
recommendation below to that
effect.<br>
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At present, there does not seem
to be a consistent practice
within ISOC<br>
regarding the role of the
membership in the policy
development<br>
process and the preparation of
background and position papers
that ISOC<br>
puts forward. Specifically, some
policy papers are submitted to
the<br>
membership for comment,
specifically the policy briefs,
while others<br>
papers, such as position papers,
are not. In one case, the
membership<br>
was not informed of a specific
submission. It appears to us
that<br>
systematic consultation with the
membership can only improve the
quality<br>
of a policy, background paper,
or position paper. The intent is
not to<br>
change ISOC's current
decision-making process for such
papers: staff<br>
would remain fully responsible
for the final version of the
paper. The<br>
intent is to allow staff to
benefit systematically from the
views of the<br>
membership, and to decide
whether or how to incorporate
comments from<br>
the membership. We propose a
recommendation below to that
effect.<br>
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*Recommendations*<br>
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Review with the relevant
chapters, policy positions and
alliances before<br>
they are made, and inform them
of meetings with national policy<br>
makers, unless time constraints
do not permit it. We have active
mailing<br>
lists that can make it quick and
easy.<br>
<br>
In general, policy, background
and position papers, including
policy<br>
briefs should be submitted to
the membership for comment prior
to<br>
publication, with the
understanding that staff retains
full ownership<br>
for the final version. Staff can
choose the most appropriate
method to<br>
consult the membership, for
example by asking for volunteers
to review<br>
drafts, by posting a draft for
comment to a mailing list, by
convening a<br>
virtual meeting to discuss the
issues, etc.<br>
<br>
Further, when papers are
published and/or submitted to
some entity<br>
outside ISOC, the membership
should be informed and a link to
the paper<br>
should be sent to the
appropriate mailing list and to
the Chapter<br>
Delegate's mailing list just
prior to the publication or
submission.<br>
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