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      Flavio Kenji Yanai je 26.8.2016 ob 2:42 napisal:<br>
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                                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug
                                      20, 2016 at 1:11 AM, avri doria <span
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                                      wrote:<br>
                                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote">Dear
                                        ChAC delegates,<br>
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                                        The ChAC Steering Committee has
                                        reviewed "A proposal for greater<br>
                                        involvement of Chapters in the
                                        position and policy brief
                                        development<br>
                                        process"  (below & attached)
                                        and is submitting it to the
                                        Chapter Council<br>
                                        for approval.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Decisions by the ChAC are
                                        governed by the Rules &
                                        Procedure paragraph 6<br>
                                        <br>
                                        > Substantive decisions, in
                                        particular regarding advice and<br>
                                        > recommendations, shall be
                                        made by the AC. Decisions may be
                                        made by<br>
                                        > electronic means (e.g.
                                        E-Mail, electronic voting
                                        systems, etc.) or<br>
                                        > during remote (audio/video
                                        conferencing) or physical
                                        meetings.<br>
                                        > Decisions shall normally be
                                        taken by consensus (meaning lack
                                        of formal<br>
                                        > opposition). If consensus
                                        cannot be achieved, then the
                                        Chair of the AC<br>
                                        > Steering Committee shall
                                        organize a vote. In case of
                                        voting, decisions<br>
                                        > shall be taken by a
                                        majority vote of the delegates
                                        to the AC. The<br>
                                        > quorum shall be nineteen
                                        (19) delegates. In case of tie,
                                        the matter<br>
                                        > will be resubmitted for
                                        discussion and a new vote. Votes
                                        will be<br>
                                        > secret. The tally of votes
                                        (for, against, abstain, did not
                                        vote) will<br>
                                        > be published. Abstentions
                                        will be counted towards
                                        determining the quorum.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        At this point I would like to
                                        open discussion on this proposal
                                        for the<br>
                                        next week - until 8/27 1200
                                        UTC.  At that point I will
                                        initiate a<br>
                                        consensus call on the document,
                                        including any changes that may
                                        be<br>
                                        warranted as part of the
                                        discussion.  This consensus call
                                        will also be<br>
                                        scheduled for 1 week.  Should
                                        the document not meet with
                                        consensus, I<br>
                                        will then request that we
                                        continue discussion on it and
                                        will bring it to<br>
                                        a vote.<br>
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                                        Thank you<br>
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                                        Avri Doria<br>
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                                        (for the ChAC SC)<br>
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                                        *A proposal for greater
                                        involvement of Chapters in the
                                        position and<br>
                                        policy brief development
                                        process*<br>
                                        <br>
                                        *Background*<br>
                                        <br>
                                        In the past, there have been
                                        occasions when ISOC staff met
                                        with national<br>
                                        policy makers without involving
                                        the national chapter in any way.
                                        Since<br>
                                        national chapters often have
                                        good relations with national
                                        officials, it<br>
                                        would be preferable if the
                                        chapters are also involved in
                                        meetings with<br>
                                        national officials. We propose a
                                        recommendation below to that
                                        effect.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        At present, there does not seem
                                        to be a consistent practice
                                        within ISOC<br>
                                        regarding the role of the
                                        membership in the policy
                                        development<br>
                                        process and the preparation of
                                        background and position papers
                                        that ISOC<br>
                                        puts forward. Specifically, some
                                        policy papers are submitted to
                                        the<br>
                                        membership for comment,
                                        specifically the policy briefs,
                                        while others<br>
                                        papers, such as position papers,
                                        are not. In one case, the
                                        membership<br>
                                        was not informed of a specific
                                        submission. It appears to us
                                        that<br>
                                        systematic consultation with the
                                        membership can only improve the
                                        quality<br>
                                        of a policy, background paper,
                                        or position paper. The intent is
                                        not to<br>
                                        change ISOC's current
                                        decision-making process for such
                                        papers: staff<br>
                                        would remain fully responsible
                                        for the final version of the
                                        paper. The<br>
                                        intent is to allow staff to
                                        benefit systematically from the
                                        views of the<br>
                                        membership, and to decide
                                        whether or how to incorporate
                                        comments from<br>
                                        the membership. We propose a
                                        recommendation below to that
                                        effect.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        *Recommendations*<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Review with the relevant
                                        chapters, policy positions and
                                        alliances before<br>
                                        they are made, and inform them
                                        of meetings with national policy<br>
                                        makers, unless time constraints
                                        do not permit it. We have active
                                        mailing<br>
                                        lists that can make it quick and
                                        easy.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        In general, policy, background
                                        and position papers, including
                                        policy<br>
                                        briefs should be submitted to
                                        the membership for comment prior
                                        to<br>
                                        publication, with the
                                        understanding that staff retains
                                        full ownership<br>
                                        for the final version. Staff can
                                        choose the most appropriate
                                        method to<br>
                                        consult the membership, for
                                        example by asking for volunteers
                                        to review<br>
                                        drafts, by posting a draft for
                                        comment to a mailing list, by
                                        convening a<br>
                                        virtual meeting to discuss the
                                        issues, etc.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Further, when papers are
                                        published and/or submitted to
                                        some entity<br>
                                        outside ISOC, the membership
                                        should be informed and a link to
                                        the paper<br>
                                        should be sent to the
                                        appropriate mailing list and to
                                        the Chapter<br>
                                        Delegate's mailing list just
                                        prior to the publication or
                                        submission.<br>
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