<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi Alejandro ,<br><div><br>Yes , I agree with you a large numbers of non-participating chapters but they will not inactive for forever . I believe this initiative make more responsible of non-participating chapters to participate in future . <br><br></div><div>Finally this initiative help more to bridging the distance between hope and opportunity also build trust among us !<br></div><br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102)">Thank you <br>Jahangir <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline" class="gmail_default">Hossaain<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline" class="gmail_default">ISOC Bangladesh Dhaka</div><br><br></span></div><span><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102)"></span></span><div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 11:40 PM, Alejandro Pisanty <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:apisanty@gmail.com" target="_blank">apisanty@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>it would be easier to discuss if the number "19" were replaced by a percentage or fraction of the total. Some may question regional minima as well.</div><div><br></div><div>There will always be a question about large numbers of non-participating chapters - like this decision itself.</div><div><br></div><div>Alejandro PIsanty</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Jahangir Hossain <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jrjahangir@gmail.com" target="_blank">jrjahangir@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I strongly support this initiative .<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><br><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102)">Thank you <br>Jahangir <div>Hossain<br></div><div>ISOC Bangladesh Chapter<br></div><div></div><br><br></span></div><span><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102)"></span></span><div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 1:11 AM, avri doria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear ChAC delegates,<br>
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The ChAC Steering Committee has reviewed "A proposal for greater<br>
involvement of Chapters in the position and policy brief development<br>
process" (below & attached) and is submitting it to the Chapter Council<br>
for approval.<br>
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Decisions by the ChAC are governed by the Rules & Procedure paragraph 6<br>
<br>
> Substantive decisions, in particular regarding advice and<br>
> recommendations, shall be made by the AC. Decisions may be made by<br>
> electronic means (e.g. E-Mail, electronic voting systems, etc.) or<br>
> during remote (audio/video conferencing) or physical meetings.<br>
> Decisions shall normally be taken by consensus (meaning lack of formal<br>
> opposition). If consensus cannot be achieved, then the Chair of the AC<br>
> Steering Committee shall organize a vote. In case of voting, decisions<br>
> shall be taken by a majority vote of the delegates to the AC. The<br>
> quorum shall be nineteen (19) delegates. In case of tie, the matter<br>
> will be resubmitted for discussion and a new vote. Votes will be<br>
> secret. The tally of votes (for, against, abstain, did not vote) will<br>
> be published. Abstentions will be counted towards determining the quorum.<br>
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At this point I would like to open discussion on this proposal for the<br>
next week - until 8/27 1200 UTC. At that point I will initiate a<br>
consensus call on the document, including any changes that may be<br>
warranted as part of the discussion. This consensus call will also be<br>
scheduled for 1 week. Should the document not meet with consensus, I<br>
will then request that we continue discussion on it and will bring it to<br>
a vote.<br>
<br>
Thank you<br>
<br>
Avri Doria<br>
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(for the ChAC SC)<br>
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<br>
*A proposal for greater involvement of Chapters in the position and<br>
policy brief development process*<br>
<br>
*Background*<br>
<br>
In the past, there have been occasions when ISOC staff met with national<br>
policy makers without involving the national chapter in any way. Since<br>
national chapters often have good relations with national officials, it<br>
would be preferable if the chapters are also involved in meetings with<br>
national officials. We propose a recommendation below to that effect.<br>
<br>
At present, there does not seem to be a consistent practice within ISOC<br>
regarding the role of the membership in the policy development<br>
process and the preparation of background and position papers that ISOC<br>
puts forward. Specifically, some policy papers are submitted to the<br>
membership for comment, specifically the policy briefs, while others<br>
papers, such as position papers, are not. In one case, the membership<br>
was not informed of a specific submission. It appears to us that<br>
systematic consultation with the membership can only improve the quality<br>
of a policy, background paper, or position paper. The intent is not to<br>
change ISOC's current decision-making process for such papers: staff<br>
would remain fully responsible for the final version of the paper. The<br>
intent is to allow staff to benefit systematically from the views of the<br>
membership, and to decide whether or how to incorporate comments from<br>
the membership. We propose a recommendation below to that effect.<br>
<br>
<br>
*Recommendations*<br>
<br>
Review with the relevant chapters, policy positions and alliances before<br>
they are made, and inform them of meetings with national policy<br>
makers, unless time constraints do not permit it. We have active mailing<br>
lists that can make it quick and easy.<br>
<br>
In general, policy, background and position papers, including policy<br>
briefs should be submitted to the membership for comment prior to<br>
publication, with the understanding that staff retains full ownership<br>
for the final version. Staff can choose the most appropriate method to<br>
consult the membership, for example by asking for volunteers to review<br>
drafts, by posting a draft for comment to a mailing list, by convening a<br>
virtual meeting to discuss the issues, etc.<br>
<br>
Further, when papers are published and/or submitted to some entity<br>
outside ISOC, the membership should be informed and a link to the paper<br>
should be sent to the appropriate mailing list and to the Chapter<br>
Delegate's mailing list just prior to the publication or submission.<br>
<br>
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