<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Alejandro<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If Chapters chose not to participate that is their loss. Consensus of participating Chapters should be sufficient.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">John <br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 22, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Eduardo Diaz <<a href="mailto:eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com" class="">eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Alejandro:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Are you recommending to revised the CaCH charter?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-ed<br class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 1:41 PM Alejandro Pisanty <<a href="mailto:apisanty@gmail.com" class="">apisanty@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">Hi,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">it would be easier to discuss if the number "19" were replaced by a percentage or fraction of the total. Some may question regional minima as well.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There will always be a question about large numbers of non-participating chapters - like this decision itself.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Alejandro PIsanty</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Jahangir Hossain <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:jrjahangir@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">jrjahangir@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I strongly support this initiative .<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102)" class="">Thank you <br class="">Jahangir <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline" class="gmail_default">Hossain<br class=""></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline" class="gmail_default">ISOC Bangladesh Chapter<br class=""></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline" class="gmail_default"></div><br class=""><br class=""></span></div><span class=""><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102)" class=""></span></span><div class="">
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<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 1:11 AM, avri doria <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank" class="">avri@acm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear ChAC delegates,<br class="">
<br class="">
The ChAC Steering Committee has reviewed "A proposal for greater<br class="">
involvement of Chapters in the position and policy brief development<br class="">
process" (below & attached) and is submitting it to the Chapter Council<br class="">
for approval.<br class="">
<br class="">
Decisions by the ChAC are governed by the Rules & Procedure paragraph 6<br class="">
<br class="">
> Substantive decisions, in particular regarding advice and<br class="">
> recommendations, shall be made by the AC. Decisions may be made by<br class="">
> electronic means (e.g. E-Mail, electronic voting systems, etc.) or<br class="">
> during remote (audio/video conferencing) or physical meetings.<br class="">
> Decisions shall normally be taken by consensus (meaning lack of formal<br class="">
> opposition). If consensus cannot be achieved, then the Chair of the AC<br class="">
> Steering Committee shall organize a vote. In case of voting, decisions<br class="">
> shall be taken by a majority vote of the delegates to the AC. The<br class="">
> quorum shall be nineteen (19) delegates. In case of tie, the matter<br class="">
> will be resubmitted for discussion and a new vote. Votes will be<br class="">
> secret. The tally of votes (for, against, abstain, did not vote) will<br class="">
> be published. Abstentions will be counted towards determining the quorum.<br class="">
<br class="">
At this point I would like to open discussion on this proposal for the<br class="">
next week - until 8/27 1200 UTC. At that point I will initiate a<br class="">
consensus call on the document, including any changes that may be<br class="">
warranted as part of the discussion. This consensus call will also be<br class="">
scheduled for 1 week. Should the document not meet with consensus, I<br class="">
will then request that we continue discussion on it and will bring it to<br class="">
a vote.<br class="">
<br class="">
Thank you<br class="">
<br class="">
Avri Doria<br class="">
<br class="">
(for the ChAC SC)<br class="">
<br class="">
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<br class="">
*A proposal for greater involvement of Chapters in the position and<br class="">
policy brief development process*<br class="">
<br class="">
*Background*<br class="">
<br class="">
In the past, there have been occasions when ISOC staff met with national<br class="">
policy makers without involving the national chapter in any way. Since<br class="">
national chapters often have good relations with national officials, it<br class="">
would be preferable if the chapters are also involved in meetings with<br class="">
national officials. We propose a recommendation below to that effect.<br class="">
<br class="">
At present, there does not seem to be a consistent practice within ISOC<br class="">
regarding the role of the membership in the policy development<br class="">
process and the preparation of background and position papers that ISOC<br class="">
puts forward. Specifically, some policy papers are submitted to the<br class="">
membership for comment, specifically the policy briefs, while others<br class="">
papers, such as position papers, are not. In one case, the membership<br class="">
was not informed of a specific submission. It appears to us that<br class="">
systematic consultation with the membership can only improve the quality<br class="">
of a policy, background paper, or position paper. The intent is not to<br class="">
change ISOC's current decision-making process for such papers: staff<br class="">
would remain fully responsible for the final version of the paper. The<br class="">
intent is to allow staff to benefit systematically from the views of the<br class="">
membership, and to decide whether or how to incorporate comments from<br class="">
the membership. We propose a recommendation below to that effect.<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
*Recommendations*<br class="">
<br class="">
Review with the relevant chapters, policy positions and alliances before<br class="">
they are made, and inform them of meetings with national policy<br class="">
makers, unless time constraints do not permit it. We have active mailing<br class="">
lists that can make it quick and easy.<br class="">
<br class="">
In general, policy, background and position papers, including policy<br class="">
briefs should be submitted to the membership for comment prior to<br class="">
publication, with the understanding that staff retains full ownership<br class="">
for the final version. Staff can choose the most appropriate method to<br class="">
consult the membership, for example by asking for volunteers to review<br class="">
drafts, by posting a draft for comment to a mailing list, by convening a<br class="">
virtual meeting to discuss the issues, etc.<br class="">
<br class="">
Further, when papers are published and/or submitted to some entity<br class="">
outside ISOC, the membership should be informed and a link to the paper<br class="">
should be sent to the appropriate mailing list and to the Chapter<br class="">
Delegate's mailing list just prior to the publication or submission.<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
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