<div dir="ltr"><font size="4">A new law in Puerto Rico will allow for communities to create their own Solar Powered systems so they can go off-grid if they like. See here (spanish ONLY): <a href="http://sincomillas.com/un-impulso-la-energia-solar/">http://sincomillas.com/un-impulso-la-energia-solar/</a></font><div><font size="4"><br></font><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">-ed<br></font><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 12:55 PM Carlos Vera <<a href="mailto:cveraq@gmail.com">cveraq@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" lang="es-ES" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);line-height:initial">                                                                                      <div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">In spain you get jail and a fine up to 30 millions euros if use solar energy on your own.</div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Comments?</div></div><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" lang="es-ES" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);line-height:initial"><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Carlos Vera</div><div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Isoc Ecuador </div>                                                                                                                                     <div style="width:100%;font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div>                                                                                                                                                                                                   <div style="font-size:initial;font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Enviado desde mi smartphone BlackBerry 10.</div>                                                                                                                                                                                  </div><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" lang="es-ES" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);line-height:initial"><table width="100%" style="background-color:white;border-spacing:0px"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="font-size:initial;text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">                           <div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in;font-family:Tahoma,'BB Alpha Sans','Slate Pro';font-size:10pt">  <div><b>De: </b>Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond</div><div><b>Enviado: </b>lunes, 8 de agosto de 2016 11:43</div><div><b>Para: </b>Jane Coffin; <a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a></div><div><b>Asunto: </b>Re: [Chapter-delegates] Solar Shed - Pictures</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" lang="es-ES" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);line-height:initial"><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(186,188,209);border-top-width:1pt;font-size:initial;text-align:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"></div><br><div style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
  
    
  
  
    Dear Jane,<br>
    <br>
    thanks for your kind and very helpful follow-up. This is
    fascinating. Is there somewhere an up to date database of community
    networks, listing the type of model it follows, its reach, and
    contact details?<br>
    Kindest regards,<br>
    <br>
    Olivier<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 05/08/2016 10:33, Jane Coffin wrote:<br>
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      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Some community
          networks are ISPs.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Some community
          networks are their own sustainable charging networks with
          authorizations and spectrum allocations – providing 2G/3G.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Some negotiate
          for backhaul and cut deals.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Some
          train-trainers and create antennae from scrap metal and/or
          teach communities how to build the networks.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Some community
          networks (like many Internet start-ups) are given seed-funding
          and survive on their own through a commons based approach
          (like Guifi).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Some may be
          goobled up by the big guys as they are more “viable”<u></u><u></u></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Some have created
          mini Internet ecosystems around them – online business, radio
          stations, and cyber cafes.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
          Some may fail – like many start-ups<u></u><u></u></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">We are trying to
          look at what success models look like and where those have
          been adapted and to convene folks to that some mistakes are
          avoidable.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Each community is
          different and ultimately some communities are shut out from
          having lower-cost simple comms due to regulatory, policy, or
          corporate issues. (note some mesh networks in the US are not
          allowed to operate in some zones where big cable companies
          operate…tricky).</span></p>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    <pre cols="72">-- 
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
<a href="http://www.gih.com/ocl.html" target="_blank">http://www.gih.com/ocl.html</a>
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