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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Hi Olivier –<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Some community networks are ISPs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Some community networks are their own sustainable charging networks with authorizations and spectrum allocations – providing 2G/3G.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Some negotiate for backhaul and cut deals.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Some train-trainers and create antennae from scrap metal and/or teach communities how to build the networks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Some community networks (like many Internet start-ups) are given seed-funding and survive on their own through a commons based approach (like Guifi).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Some may be goobled up by the big guys as they are more “viable”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Some have created mini Internet ecosystems around them – online business, radio stations, and cyber cafes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Some may fail – like many start-ups<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">We are trying to look at what success models look like and where those have been adapted and to convene folks to that some mistakes are avoidable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Each community is different and ultimately some communities are shut out from having lower-cost simple comms due to regulatory, policy, or corporate issues. (note some mesh networks in
the US are not allowed to operate in some zones where big cable companies operate…tricky).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Best,<br>
Jane<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Skype: janercoffin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Mobile/WhatsApp: +1.202.247.8429</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org> on behalf of Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, August 5, 2016 at 3:15 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" <chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Chapter-delegates] Solar Shed - Pictures<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 03/08/2016 22:02, Ted Mooney wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I hope so too, Vint. Guifi.net was featured at our last Community Forum in June on Community Networking. Here's a link to the background material .<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><a href="https://isoc.app.box.com/files/0/f/8312280853/1/f_70089054693" id="LPlnk891007">https://isoc.app.box.com/files/0/f/8312280853/1/f_70089054693</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">And here's a link to the recorded Community forum <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://isoc.app.box.com/files/0/f/8609984629/Jun_2016_Community_Networking" id="LPlnk107951">https://isoc.app.box.com/files/0/f/8609984629/Jun_2016_Community_Networking</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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How sustainable are these initiatives in the long term?<br>
I am asking because I cannot stop remembering FON - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FON">
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FON</a><br>
I remember being a member back in 2006, less than a year after launch, and it was all so community-based, yet in order to survive it ended up needing to strike corporate deals with Telcos & ISPs, as shown on
<a href="https://fon.com/wifi-solutions/">https://fon.com/wifi-solutions/</a><br>
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I am not saying it is a bad thing, but can a community network survive in today's bandwidth hungry world if it doesn't strike a deal with an ISP?<br>
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Kindest regards,<br>
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Olivier<br>
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<pre>Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="http://www.gih.com/ocl.html">http://www.gih.com/ocl.html</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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