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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Eric,<br>
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Good question raised by you. The problem I see is in the
difference of Chapters status and organization.<br>
I can only speak for my country where the law is very restrictive
regarding the acting of<br>
registered legal non-for profit association. The following apply:<br>
<br>
-our Bylaws must be written in accordance with the state law. They
are reviewed by<br>
regional state agency each time a word or a number is changed and
after<br>
approval are receiving a seal. They must be approved<br>
as well by the society assembly. <br>
<br>
-we must have licensed accounting service, that overlook and
manage the bank transactions and<br>
prepare each year accounting report that is approved by the
society assembly and then<br>
submitted to the government accounting office - office for public
evidences<br>
and services (ajpes, <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ajpes.si/">http://www.ajpes.si/</a>). We are also obliged to
pay tax to the<br>
state official taxation service for each payment or bill.<br>
<br>
So, the control in my country is very strict, but I do not know if
this apply to<br>
other countries a s well.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Borka<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Eric Burger je 8.4.2016 ob 12:52 napisal:<br>
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<div>One of the major issues with disbursing funds is accounting
and accountability. Get one of those wong and the Internet
Society loses its tax exempt status. Losing its tax exempt
status could result, in the extreme, in the liquidation of ISOC.
At the worst, such an event, and the path to that event, would
mean lots of lawyers getting rich and those of us in chapters
getting nothing. </div>
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<div>Tax law is specific about banning individuals from enriching
themselves from a non-profit. This is one of the structural
reasons why non profit pay is so much less than private sector
pay for the same job. </div>
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<div>A problem with simply paying block grants to chapters is if
ANY chapter improperly spends the money, then ALL of ISOC is at
risk. </div>
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<div>I am not saying ISOC should not be financially supporting
Chapters. What I am saying is that if there is going to be some
sort of funding model proposed, please also propose how the
accountability mechanisms will work. </div>
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<div>From: Keith Davidson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:keith@internetnz.net.nz"><keith@internetnz.net.nz></a> </div>
<div>Date: 4/8/2016 1:28 AM (GMT-03:00) </div>
<div>To: 'Chapter Delegates'
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"><chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org></a> </div>
<div>Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] ISOC-NY President Resigns
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I respect the validity of the concept of bulk funding as a method
of <br>
supporting chapters. But there is some risk attached for ISOC in
taking <br>
such an approach. It might be that 100 chapters pull ISOC in 100 <br>
different directions. There would likely be high levels of
duplication <br>
of efforts and energies with many people doing the same function.
etc <br>
etc. What safeguards would ISOC have that the funds were not being
<br>
wasted, or mis-used?<br>
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Jožef Stefan Institute and
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