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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hello:<br>
      <br>
      I am in agreement with all that has been detailed in this email
      thread and it calls for substantive action.<br>
      <br>
      Glenn, you have done amazing work for the Canada ISOC Chapter, it
      will be extremely tough to replace you.  I have benefited greatly
      from your support and guidance as Chapter Leader, total
      appreciation and thank you.<br>
      <br>
      Regards,<br>
      Leah Symekher<br>
      SFBay Area ISOC Chapter, President<br>
      <br>
      On 4/7/16 3:38 PM, Glenn McKnight wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Yes   I think Keith is  suggesting  some good
         approaches  to administration vs  board  stuff
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        <div>I  have been on the board,Chair for committee and
           committee member and we have 10 committees with  monthly
          meetings plus  our  board  meeting.  This  is  alot of  time
          just on the calls.   We  have  a split between active ( Burned
          out) and  inactive who are on board because it looks  right on
          a resume</div>
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        <div>I am stepping down as well from  Internet Society of
           Canada  but  I will continue to  provide  adminstrative
           support.  This  administration support  includes:</div>
        <div>-Website  updates</div>
        <div>-CRM database maintainence</div>
        <div>-Monthly reconcillation with Quickbooks</div>
        <div>-Annual preparation of books for auditor</div>
        <div>-Filing of  annual Goods and Service  Rebate</div>
        <div>-Deposits</div>
        <div>-Invoicing all members  using  Paypal </div>
        <div>-Handle all emails and mails to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:contact@internetsociety.ca">contact@internetsociety.ca</a> </div>
        <div>-Payment of  Officer and Director Liability Insurance</div>
        <div>-Maintain all files,  </div>
        <div>-Backup to  RAS  drive and secondary backup drive of  all
          files, pictures  etc</div>
        <div>-Planning for  annual conference/logistics</div>
        <div>-Support on AGM </div>
        <div>-Manage  Eventbrite for events</div>
        <div>-Email via  Eventbrite and CIVICRM to membership </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>These are  core  practical  administrative stuff and
          contrary to  the board role. and essential  for any viable
          chapter</div>
        <div><br>
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        <div>Glenn</div>
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            <div dir="ltr">Glenn McKnight<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" target="_blank">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a><br>
              skype  gmcknight<br>
              twitter gmcknight<br>
              .</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Keith
          Davidson <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:keith@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">keith@internetnz.net.nz</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
            <br>
            I agree with Carlos regarding the sustainability of ISOC
            chapters.<br>
            <br>
            Currently the chapter "officers" spend inordinate amounts of
            time on doing meeting minutes, treasurers functions, looking
            after the website, convening meetings, maintaining members
            lists, and other routine administrivia. It would be of
            extreme benefit to the chapters if ISOC could provide
            administrative staff to undertake these functions. This
            would free up considerable time for the chapter "officers"
            to spend on strategic thinking and advancing the issues of
            real importance to their chapters.<br>
            <br>
            Furthermore, ISOC would gain considerably overall by
            devolving its centralised authority, allowing more regional
            or local empowerment, to deal with the issues more critical
            within those communities. I feel the current centralised
            structure inhibits ISOC's ability to grow. I also sense from
            this thread there is a growing frustration with the current
            structure, and I remain hopeful that high level strategic
            changes are being considered by the board and senior staff.<br>
            <br>
            Cheers<br>
            <br>
            Keith
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                On 07-Apr-16 12:51 AM, Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G. wrote:<br>
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                  .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                  Hi Vreni!<br>
                  <br>
                  I see it as a much broader question than just for 3
                  candidates to the<br>
                  Board. There are many different paths to make chapters
                  sustainable,<br>
                  trough their leaders, their initiatives and else. Even
                  by getting them<br>
                  on ISOCs or any other 5* payrolls.<br>
                  <br>
                  Cheers<br>
                  <br>
                  Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez<br>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="tel:%2B506%208837%207176" value="+50688377176"
                    target="_blank">+506 8837 7176</a><br>
                  Skype: carlos.raulg<br>
                  Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica)<br>
                  On 6 Apr 2016, at 6:34, Veni Markovski wrote:<br>
                  <br>
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                    .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                    Hi, Carlos!<br>
                    <br>
                    Given the fact that right now is voting time, that
                    sounds like a<br>
                    question, aimed at the candidates to join the Board
                    of Trustees.<br>
                    <br>
                    Hope that they will respond?<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    On 04/05/16 23:58, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:info@isoc.org.ec" target="_blank">info@isoc.org.ec</a>
                    wrote:<br>
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                      .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      With an every day growing staff, ISOC HQ should
                      have a dedicated<br>
                      staff to chapters, with real chapter experience
                      and also a dedicated<br>
                      program for make chapters sustainable and
                      volunteers.<br>
                      <br>
                      Maybe it's a good time to ask for this as a real
                      an serious<br>
                      compromise from the various candidates to the ISOC
                      board in the next<br>
                      coming election<br>
                      <br>
                      Carlos Vera<br>
                      Internet Society Ecuador<br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.isoc.org.ec" rel="noreferrer"
                        target="_blank">www.isoc.org.ec</a><br>
                      Síguenos @isocec<br>
                      <br>
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                        El 5 abr 2016, a las 11:51 a.m., Carlos Raúl
                        Gutiérrez G.<br>
                        <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:crg@isoc-cr.org" target="_blank">crg@isoc-cr.org</a>>
                        escribió:<br>
                        <br>
                        @Glenn +1<br>
                        <br>
                        After spending a long year trying to get our
                        local chapter 100%<br>
                        registered under a celar non-for profit
                        structure in Costa Rica so<br>
                        we can even have our own bank account, we found
                        out the ISOC does<br>
                        not even consider guaranteeing  the basic yearly
                        support of US $<br>
                        2´000/year we assumed as the basic support to
                        share one part time<br>
                        person with one of our Board members………<br>
                        <br>
                        Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez<br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="tel:%2B506%208837%207176"
                          value="+50688377176" target="_blank">+506 8837
                          7176</a><br>
                        Skype: carlos.raulg<br>
                        Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica)<br>
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                    --<br>
                    <br>
                    Best,<br>
                    Veni Markovski<br>
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