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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Thanks, Judith.<br>
I managed to follow your instructions, and found the invitation. <br>
You were right about the link - it's not working, unless you copy
and paste it manually. <br>
<br>
I will follow the discussions on the website, although I find this
extremely uncomfortable. <br>
We have had discussions in the past about the Connect, or whatever
it is called. It is not a friendly platform (e.g. cannot have a
working URL? Really? In 2016??) When one edits their profile, it
throws them back to the main menu (instead to the the one just
edited, to avoid multiple and useless clicks...), etc.<br>
<br>
<br>
Anyway, on the elections - would it be possible for ISOC staff to
provide some statistics as to how many unique visitors actually
looked at these questions? Also, I see only 75 members of this
discussion group. Does that mean quarter of the voting delegates
have not yet logged in the site, so they may not actually know who
are the candidates, what they think, etc.? <br>
<br>
I understand one needs an invitation to read the discussion. I
would have understand, if one needs such to ask a question, but
why would reading it be limited to specially invited people? <br>
<br>
Hope someone can answer to these questions...<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/06/16 13:04, Judith Hellerstein
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HI All,<br>
<br>
Veni suggested I post this info to the list of how to see the
forum. I also could not find it despite searching on Connect.
Finally Olga provided the link but as Hans says unless you ae part
of that group you can not see any of the discussions. However
after searching the site I found out how to get on. After you log
on to Connect, look for your Inbox and messages. In your Inbox you
will find a message from Hans there. Hans sent a link to join the
discussion. In my version the link was not clickable so you need
to copy the link from there and then you get a box to subscribe to
it. Once you do that then you should be subscribed to the site
and able to get the questions and answers emailed to you and also
to see them on the site. This was an extremely complicated,
frustrating, and not user friendly way of doing something which
should have been simple ans easy<br>
<br>
Hope this helps people navigate<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Judith<br>
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Thanks.<br>
I am surprised that the voting chapter delegates are not
subscribed automatically, but we have to email <a
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href="mailto:elections@isoc.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:elections@isoc.org">elections@isoc.org</a></a>
(I've BCC:ed them). <br>
I logged in - no such forum. Now they will probably send me
something, which I have to click, and then confirm, in order
to sign up. Extremely user-unfriendly.<br>
<br>
I've setup to receive everything by email, but obviously I am
not getting the candidates' discussions. If I were a
candidate, I would be worried that my message doesn't get to
the people, who vote for me. <br>
<br>
v<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/06/16 11:34, Hans Peter
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Veni,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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everybody,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">You were asking for the links to the
discussion forum for the elections.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">The question and answers of the
candidates can be found in Connect. Both forums are
closed and visible to invited users only. There is a
forum setup on connect for the chapters candidates
and another one for the organizational members.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">Invitations were send out to all voting
delegates and to the members of the
chapter-delegates list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">If you need support accessing those,
please send an email to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:elections@isoc.org">elections@isoc.org</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">And yes I understand your reservations
to use Connect. For the time being (for this year´s
election) it is the medium provided to us and used
by ISOC. Be assured that your complains are
received.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">We heard voices who do not like to use
mailing lists for this kind of question and answer
exchange and believe the format of social media and
of a discussion forum is better suited. But there
are also people who prefer text only mailing lists.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">For the time being questions from the
delegates list are copied manually into Connect. You
can setup your preferences in Connect to receive all
questions and answers in email-format or as digest
if you want.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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best we can achieve for this election<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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