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Hi Dave,<br>
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And other candidates from China have been considered also during my
term on the NomCom of ICANN. If they were not elected, it's not an
exclusion matter. Candidates are considered all alike. Criterias
don't come from the US Gov. I find your point of view a little bit
short on this, with all my respect.<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Louis Houle
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 2016-02-21 23:27, Alejandro Pisanty
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<div>though this may puncture a balloon, there has been at least
one Chinese citizen, national and resident in the ICANN
Board. </div>
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<div>Yours,</div>
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<div>Alejandro Pisanty</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 10:25 PM, Dave
Burstein <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Kathy and folk,
with respect</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Using the name
Internet Society of CHina is tasteless, but there are
much more important issues in this discussion. </div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">China has twice
as many Internet users as the U.S. and the gap is
growing at 5-8M users per year. Africa is about to pass
315M Internet users, the entire population of the United
States. (Cisco data.) Cheap smartphones are bringing two
<u>billion</u> more people to the Internet. We all think
that's a great thing. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><b>I do not
believe Internet governance (or ISOC) can be effective
with the majority of world Internet users excluded.</b>
As Ambassador Phil Verveer said to me the night of the
ITU WCIT vote, "We must build bridges."</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><b>It's time for
a Nixon Goes to China move for the Internet. </b>Kathy,
Vint or whoever is leading us should be finding a way to
work with all nations. Bob Kahn, an Internet Society
founder, might be one natural link. He spoke at that
conference in China, as did several other Internet
Society supporters.</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I'm not blind to
how many people starved in the 1950's in China, what
happened at Tiananmen Square, or the speech limitations
in China today. I'm also not blind to what America did
in Vietnam or the $billions being spent to buy the U.S.
elections. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I'm sure we all
can make lawyer-like arguments here. But it's missing
the key issue. We need to solve the North-South divide
about the Internet.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">In Dubai at the
WCIT a few hours before that vote, I asked Larry
Strickling why the U.S. was fighting so hard over what
seemed to me some very minor issues, at most of symbolic
value. He looked at me and asked, "Dave, do you want
Russia or China to be running the Internet?" We both
went back to work.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Later, I realized
I should have said, "Of course I want Russia and China
to have a meaningful role. If we continue to exclude
them, ultimately the Internet will split." </div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I did not know at
that time that no Chinese were on the Board of ICANN
because that would not be acceptable to the U.S.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The Internet
Society should be leading the way. Excluding China - and
so many others - I believe will fail.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Which doesn't say
anything about whether this is the right way to handle
who is a civil society group. That's a side issue. The
big question is whether the ICANN board and the decision
makers of all important groups here see more than one
side of the North South divide.</div>
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Burstein. </div>
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