<div dir="ltr">Hi All <div>For the record I have been asking for our attention to the ISOC Toronto issue for three years. As one of the advocates to create a legitimate ISOC Chapter in Canada ( one of two) this group not only steals the site but is gathering information on interested parties. How many people have surrendered their contact information to a mystery group without any accountability. </div><div><br></div><div>If ISOC allows it's brand to be stolen, hijacked and misrepresented by false and misleading groups we have a serious problem. </div><div><br></div><div>I would like the silent nominees for the ISOC Board get off their hands and wade into this issue. This should be an election issue that forces the nominees into the discussion. If they are silent why are they running for the board?<br>Glenn</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Glenn McKnight<br><a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" target="_blank">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a><br>skype gmcknight<br>twitter gmcknight<br>.</div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Michael Kende <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kende@isoc.org" target="_blank">kende@isoc.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr">ISOC of New Zealand also hijacked the Internet Society brand - they eventually rebranded themselves, I believe. I am really unhappy about this kind of thing. I tried for quite a while re NZ and eventually they changed leadership and their attitude.
The Chinese have been using the name for a long time without any affiliation. I think it may be hard to get them to stop - the trademark world is rife with cases where failure to defend the mark loses control. The term "Internet" cannot be trademarked except
it has to refer to the "network of networks" we call "Internet" (a ten year battle against a banking consortium that was granted the trademark to "Internet" - it cost CNRI ten years and $100K in legal fees and only went away when there was a change in management
that didn't think it was worth fighting further.).
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<div>I am glad to see that Kathy is going to dig into this further.</div>
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<div>Kathy, do we have a recorded trademark for "internet society" ?</div>
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<div>Recently the ICANN ATLARGE voted to include the civil society organization called Internet Society China into the ALS membership of APRALO. They are not a ISOC Chapter. </div>
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<div>I have tried to bring up the issue of organizations that confuse the public as to what is a legitimate ISOC chapter. But no one has taken notice. </div>
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<div> I have been notified ISOC that the <a href="http://www.isoctoronto.org" target="_blank">www.isoctoronto.org</a> has been a rogue site for a few years I am including a screencapture of the registration page they have people falsely add
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<div>We need to have a process of dealing with these type of false or rogue sites that misinform the public. Since ISOC is branding itself as a viable strong organization and it turns a blind eye to this situation we have a problem.<br>
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