<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>a way to make this more concrete is to act with associations of firms and of developers. One effective tool (not a silver bullet) is to look at Codes of Conduct. Organizations like the IEEE already have some well-developed ones. I also know that at least some firms associations are working on them; one, notorious for me, in the Denver, Colorado area (US.) And of course organizations oriented towards privacy protection and waving the banner of privacy by design are natural for his purpose.</div><div><br></div><div>ISOC chapters and HQ can cooperate so that we can have broad principles and deep understanding interacting and iterating with the more local, fine-grain efforts.</div><div><br></div><div>A first, concrete task would be to just collect what is out there and catalogue it. Another, work on the definitions of privacy, which may run a broad gamut from narrowly, legally defined personal data protection to a broader concept of intimacy.</div><div><br></div><div>Yours,</div><div><br></div><div>Alejandro Pisanty</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Sam Lanfranco <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sam@lanfranco.net" target="_blank">sam@lanfranco.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Jahangir,<br>
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A quick short response here. We are in a "wild frontier" of data
mining for marketing profit at the moment and there are three
avenues for going down the path of "..the right way to create IoT
infrastructure and applications. They are (of course): (a) developer
efforts; (b) regulations; and (c) user behavior. My guess is that it
will take user behavior to shape developer efforts "Just say No to
certain apps and features" and a user push for some minimal "level
playing field" regulation. I agree that this is an area where ISOC
Chapters can lead....and ISOC Central can follow and support. <br>
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Sam L. <br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font color="#333399">I agree with your points specially
awareness and engagement by individuals as "citizens of the
Internet" and favorite apps example but still downloading
these apps(as a smart citizens of Internet) :) . My initial
concept about IoT; more sensitive while exchange information
within IoT architecture like critical scenario example;
communication between patent and doctor or hospital . <br>
Now i'm thinking the same framework concept like cloud
Private,Community and Public IoT architecture which could be
quite secure based on our demand . Users and developers can
play important role can consider this before build the
infrastructure and applications . <br>
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Eric , <br>
I'm also agree with your point "opportunity for Chapters to
be out in front educating users, governments, and developers
about the right way to create IoT infrastructure and
applications". <br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Jahangir,<br>
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Privacy is not dead, but what is needed is much greater
awareness and engagement by individuals as "citizens of
the Internet". If a department store, a car repair shop,
or a restaurant stopped us at the door and asked for all
the information a downloaded app asks for (and continues
to track) when we add our favorite social media, or
utility, app to a cell phone, or an IoT device, we would
be offended and say no. We have an acquired and
(hopefully) informed sense of self and privacy there, in
those literal spaces. This is yet to happen in the
virtual spaces we occupy. Will we get there through
awareness and engagement, or through a series of
unfortunate invasions of privacy? That is hard to say.
Will we stand up for a sense of self that delineates
ourselves as individuals, hopefully within a community,
or will we allow others to lump us into their marketing
strategies and schemes for political control? I hope we
struggle and opt for the former (empowered selves within
communities) and not the later (powerless consumers).
Hope springs eternal <span></span> .<span><br>
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Sam Lanfranco, ISOC Canada Chapter. <br>
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