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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Greetings all:<br>
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It is quite obvious that the end point for some in ICANN (not I
think, Crocker) would be something as self-electing and self
referential as the International Olympic Committee.<br>
Something we must avoid.<br>
<br>
Timothy Denton<br>
Chairman, ISOC Canada chapter<br>
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On 4/30/2015 4:27 AM, Richard Hill wrote:<br>
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agree that the jurisdiction issue is significant and cannot
be swept under the rug.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Chapter-delegates
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org">mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond<br>
<b>Sent:</b> jeudi, 30. avril 2015 10:26<br>
<b>To:</b> Narelle Clark; Chapter Delegates<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates] Reminder -
Open comment period from ICANN CCWG for new naming
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dear
Narelle,<br>
<br>
this slide, number 18, is unsubstantiated. I would ignore
it.<br>
Ditto for slide 28, 29, 30...<br>
<br>
I would be more interested in Slide #19 - this is the issue
of jurisdiction and the proposal so far keeps jurisdiction
firmly in the United States.<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 30/04/2015 09:55, Narelle Clark
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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All,<br>
you may find this further piece interesting also. I
admit to being deeply concerned and am seeking
further clarification.<br>
<br>
At the recent ARIN meeting a presentation was given:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_35/PDF/monday/crisp_panel.pdf">https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_35/PDF/monday/crisp_panel.pdf</a><br>
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Page 18 of the ARIN presentation says:<br>
<br>
"ICANN has verbally represented that they will
reject any proposed agreement<br>
in which ICANN is not deemed the sole source prime
contractor for IANA<br>
functions in perpetuity.<br>
<br>
"ICANN asserts that neither NTIA nor the US Congress
will approve any<br>
transition plan which leaves open the possibility of
a future non-US IANA<br>
Functions Operator."<br>
<br>
Milton Mueller has blogged on this:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.internetgovernance.org/2015/04/28/icann-wants-an-iana-functions-monopoly-and-its-willing-to-wreck-the-transition-process-to-get-it/">http://www.internetgovernance.org/2015/04/28/icann-wants-an-iana-functions-monopoly-and-its-willing-to-wreck-the-transition-process-to-get-it/</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.internetgovernance.org/2015/04/28/icann-wants-an-iana-functions-monopoly-and-its-willing-to-wreck-the-transition-process-to-get-it/">http://www.internetgovernance.org/2015/04/28/icann-wants-an-iana-functions-monopoly-and-its-willing-to-wreck-the-transition-process-to-get-it/</a>><br>
<br>
An interesting quote from the article:<br>
<br>
"Those who claim that ICANN’s good performance of
the IANA functions in the past, under NTIA
supervision, means that we needn’t bother with
“complex” new organizational arrangements that
compensate for the loss of NTIA accountability are,
we think, being proved wrong. But it’s good that
this is happening now, before the die is fully cast.
Just imagine bargaining with ICANN once it has all
the marbles.”<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Narelle<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 7:04 PM,
Narelle Clark <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:narelle@isoc-au.org.au" target="_blank">narelle@isoc-au.org.au</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">All,<br>
we are entering what may be the final stages of the
compilation of the<br>
proposal for a post-US government stewardship of the
IANA functions.<br>
<br>
Like the numbering and protocol parameters groups
before them, the<br>
names community are in the final phases of compiling a
proposal for<br>
that final piece of IANA. Their proposal has gone out
for public<br>
comment, see:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/cwg-stewardship-draft-proposal-2015-04-22-en"
target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/public-comments/cwg-stewardship-draft-proposal-2015-04-22-en</a><br>
<br>
I therefore encourage you to participate in this
community exercise.<br>
<br>
A huge thank you must go to everyone who participated
in the proposal<br>
development for the numbers community (via the CRISP
team from the<br>
RIRs) and the protocol parameters community (via
ianaplan from the<br>
IETF). Those proposals are comprehensive indeed:<br>
<br>
Numbers, ie RIR: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.nro.net/news/final-proposal-crisp"
target="_blank">https://www.nro.net/news/final-proposal-crisp</a><br>
Protocols, ie IETF:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-09"
target="_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-09</a><br>
<br>
<br>
We will be moving into the final phase soon, so I will
need people's<br>
thoughts on the overall system proposal: is it
appropriate?<br>
Have the processes been rigorous and dealt with issues
raised within<br>
standing community processes?<br>
Are the proposals consistent with each other?<br>
Will they work together?<br>
<br>
Is anything missing?<br>
<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
<span style="color:#888888"><br>
<br>
<span class="hoenzb">Narelle</span><br>
<br>
<span class="hoenzb">--</span><br>
<br>
<span class="hoenzb">Narelle Clark</span><br>
<span class="hoenzb">ISOC nominee to the IANA
Coordination Group</span><br>
<br>
<span class="hoenzb">Immediate Past President and
Board Member</span><br>
<span class="hoenzb">Internet Society of Australia</span><br>
<span class="hoenzb"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:narelle@internet.org.au">narelle@internet.org.au</a></span><br>
<span class="hoenzb"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<span class="hoenzb">The Internet is for Everyone!</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<br>
Narelle Clark<br>
Immediate Past President and Board Member<br>
Internet Society of Australia<br>
ph: 0412 297 043<br>
int ph: +61 412 297 043<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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The Internet is for Everyone!<o:p></o:p></p>
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