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Dear Narelle,<br>
<br>
this slide, number 18, is unsubstantiated. I would ignore it.<br>
Ditto for slide 28, 29, 30...<br>
<br>
I would be more interested in Slide #19 - this is the issue of
jurisdiction and the proposal so far keeps jurisdiction firmly in
the United States.<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
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All,<br>
you may find this further piece interesting also. I admit to
being deeply concerned and am seeking further clarification.<br>
<br>
At the recent ARIN meeting a presentation was given:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_35/PDF/monday/crisp_panel.pdf">https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_35/PDF/monday/crisp_panel.pdf</a><br>
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Page 18 of the ARIN presentation says:<br>
<br>
"ICANN has verbally represented that they will reject any
proposed agreement<br>
in which ICANN is not deemed the sole source prime
contractor for IANA<br>
functions in perpetuity.<br>
<br>
"ICANN asserts that neither NTIA nor the US Congress will
approve any<br>
transition plan which leaves open the possibility of a
future non-US IANA<br>
Functions Operator."<br>
<br>
Milton Mueller has blogged on this:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.internetgovernance.org/2015/04/28/icann-wants-an-iana-functions-monopoly-and-its-willing-to-wreck-the-transition-process-to-get-it/">http://www.internetgovernance.org/2015/04/28/icann-wants-an-iana-functions-monopoly-and-its-willing-to-wreck-the-transition-process-to-get-it/</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.internetgovernance.org/2015/04/28/icann-wants-an-iana-functions-monopoly-and-its-willing-to-wreck-the-transition-process-to-get-it/">http://www.internetgovernance.org/2015/04/28/icann-wants-an-iana-functions-monopoly-and-its-willing-to-wreck-the-transition-process-to-get-it/</a>><br>
<br>
An interesting quote from the article:<br>
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"Those who claim that ICANN’s good performance of the IANA
functions in the past, under NTIA supervision, means that we
needn’t bother with “complex” new organizational
arrangements that compensate for the loss of NTIA
accountability are, we think, being proved wrong. But it’s
good that this is happening now, before the die is fully
cast. Just imagine bargaining with ICANN once it has all the
marbles.”<br>
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Thoughts?<br>
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Narelle<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 7:04 PM,
Narelle Clark <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:narelle@isoc-au.org.au" target="_blank">narelle@isoc-au.org.au</a>></span>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">All,<br>
we are entering what may be the final stages of the
compilation of the<br>
proposal for a post-US government stewardship of the IANA
functions.<br>
<br>
Like the numbering and protocol parameters groups before
them, the<br>
names community are in the final phases of compiling a
proposal for<br>
that final piece of IANA. Their proposal has gone out for
public<br>
comment, see:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/cwg-stewardship-draft-proposal-2015-04-22-en"
target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/public-comments/cwg-stewardship-draft-proposal-2015-04-22-en</a><br>
<br>
I therefore encourage you to participate in this community
exercise.<br>
<br>
A huge thank you must go to everyone who participated in the
proposal<br>
development for the numbers community (via the CRISP team
from the<br>
RIRs) and the protocol parameters community (via ianaplan
from the<br>
IETF). Those proposals are comprehensive indeed:<br>
<br>
Numbers, ie RIR: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.nro.net/news/final-proposal-crisp"
target="_blank">https://www.nro.net/news/final-proposal-crisp</a><br>
Protocols, ie IETF:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-09"
target="_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-09</a><br>
<br>
<br>
We will be moving into the final phase soon, so I will need
people's<br>
thoughts on the overall system proposal: is it appropriate?<br>
Have the processes been rigorous and dealt with issues
raised within<br>
standing community processes?<br>
Are the proposals consistent with each other?<br>
Will they work together?<br>
<br>
Is anything missing?<br>
<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Narelle<br>
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Narelle Clark<br>
ISOC nominee to the IANA Coordination Group<br>
<br>
Immediate Past President and Board Member<br>
Internet Society of Australia<br>
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Narelle Clark<br>
Immediate Past President and Board Member<br>
Internet Society of Australia<br>
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