<html><head><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">Thank you Klaus.</div> <br> <div class="bloop_sign" id="bloop_sign_1429892537230035968"><div style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:13px"><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; line-height: normal; border-spacing: 0px;"><b class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial;">Nicolas CHAGNY</b></span></div><div class="" style="font-family: 'helvetica Neue', helvetica;"><p class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2; border-spacing: 0px;"><span class="" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 7.5pt;"><b class="">Président<span class="" style="color: rgb(51, 102, 102);"><br class=""></span><span class="" style="color: navy;">Internet Society France</span></b><span class="" style="color: rgb(51, 102, 102);"><br class=""></span><a href="tel://+33 6 74 97 82 23">+33 6 74 97 82 23</a></span><span class="" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"><br class=""></span><u class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><a href="http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30290501/www.isoc.fr?p=eyJzIjoiSEtaY1JRSkFUYko5bHZQOVlLOWNicVprWHVFIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDI5MDUwMSxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvd3d3Lmlzb2MuZnJcXFwvXCIsXCJpZFwiOlwiOTUwNzE3ZDMwZDE4NDUyNWE5MjUxODY2MmYwYjgzYmZcIixcInVybF9pZHNcIjpbXCI0MWJmMzYxMGIzMjdjY2FjMDI5MDNlYmMwNjUwN2I2M2E3OGRhNTY4XCJdfSJ9" class="">www.isoc.fr</a></span></u></span></p><p class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span class="" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 7.5pt;"><b class="">Assistante : </b>Yoanna Hattais <a href="tel://+33 1 55 25">+33 1 55 25</a> 50 70</span><span class="" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"><br class=""></span><u class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><a href="mailto:yoanna.hattais@isoc.fr" class="">yoanna.hattais@isoc.fr</a></span></u></p><br class="Apple-interchange-newline" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2;"><img height="73" width="170" apple-inline="yes" id="A60FF3F4-76F1-4C97-9AEB-933ACEA61B7E" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:35B66F42-4404-4AB6-8513-A9C853020A2D" class="" name="A60FF3F4-76F1-4C97-9AEB-933ACEA61B7E"></span></div></div></div> <br><p style="color:#000;">Le 24 avril 2015 à 15:15:14, Frédéric Donck (<a href="mailto:donck@isoc.org">donck@isoc.org</a>) a écrit:</p> <blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq"><span><div><div></div><div>
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<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 13.0px Helvetica">Thank you very much
Klaus.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font></p>
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<div><font face="Helvetica"><span style="line-height: normal;">Best
Regards</span><br style="line-height: normal;">
<span style="line-height: normal;">Frederic</span><br style="line-height: normal;">
<br style="line-height: normal;">
<span style="line-height: normal;">Frederic Donck</span><br style="line-height: normal;">
<span style="line-height: normal;">Director European Regional
Bureau</span><br style="line-height: normal;">
<span style="line-height: normal;">Internet
Society</span><br style="line-height: normal;">
<br style="line-height: normal;">
<span style="line-height: normal;">www.isoc.org</span></font></div>
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De: <span style="color:black">Klaus Birkenbihl</span> <a href="mailto:klaus.birkenbihl@isoc.de"><klaus.birkenbihl@isoc.de></a><br>
Date: <span style="color:black">24 avril 2015 at
15:07:19</span><br>
À: <span style="color:black">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</span> <a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"><chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org>></a><br>
Sujet: <span style="color:black">Re: [Chapter-delegates] TIME
SENSITIVE: French antiterrorism bill "Projet de Loi
Renseignement"<br></span></div>
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<div><span style="color:black">In short: out of my head I see 4
main directions under discussion in Germany. Some are also
addressed on <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30290501/ISOC.DE?p=eyJzIjoicGlENGVabTVIRzR1Uy1vTU9PdFFVX25BckZjIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDI5MDUwMSxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwczpcXFwvXFxcL0lTT0MuREVcIixcImlkXCI6XCI5NTA3MTdkMzBkMTg0NTI1YTkyNTE4NjYyZjBiODNiZlwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcImIyMGI5NDBmMzJmM2NjZGM3ZWZiN2QyYzk0YTgzMWFmMDI0MGMxYjhcIl19In0">https://ISOC.DE</a><br></span>
<ul>
<li><span style="color:black">extension of legal surveillance by
intelligence services (and maybe police)<br></span></li>
<li><span style="color:black">restrictions on free
cryptography</span></li>
<li><span style="color:black">extended data preservation (of
connection data)</span></li>
<li><span style="color:black">a new law on cyber security (sounds
good in general but has some strings attached).</span></li>
</ul>
<span style="color:black">Hope it helps.<br>
Klaus<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span style="color:black">Frédéric
Donck schrieb am 23.04.2015 um 17:09:<br></span></div>
<blockquote cite="mid:etPan.55390b31.1b62a22f.15f@imacdefricdonck" type="cite">
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<span style="color:black">Dear All,</span></div>
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<span style="color:black">I’d like to come back on this request and
provide Nicolas (Chair of ISOC France) with as much information as
we could.</span></div>
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<span style="color:black">This is a very important case for all of
us and in exchanging info through our invaluable network, we could
not only contribute to the French Chapter objective but also
benefit everybody’s experience and feedback on such a sensitive
issue for the Internet.</span></div>
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<span style="color:black">I understand Nicolas deadline is on
Saturday. thanks a lot in advance fo your help.</span></div>
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<div><span style="color:black"><font face="Helvetica"><span style="line-height: normal;">Best Regards</span><br style="line-height: normal;">
<span style="line-height: normal;">Frederic</span><br style="line-height: normal;">
<br style="line-height: normal;">
<span style="line-height: normal;">Frederic Donck</span><br style="line-height: normal;">
<span style="line-height: normal;">Director European Regional
Bureau</span><br style="line-height: normal;">
<span style="line-height: normal;">Internet
Society</span><br style="line-height: normal;">
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De: <span style="color:black">Nicolas Chagny</span>
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Date: <span style="color:black">22 avril 2015 at
09:55:24</span><br>
À: <span style="color:black"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a></span>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"><chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org>></a><br>
Sujet: <span style="color:black">[Chapter-delegates] French
antiterrorism bill "Projet de Loi Renseignement"<br></span></div>
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<span>Dear all,</span>
<div><span><br></span></div>
<div><span>I suppose you know the French parliament is close to
vote another antiterrorism bill, called "Projet de Loi
Renseignement".</span></div>
<div><span>You can read an editorial of the New York Times here
:</span></div>
<div><span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30290501/www.nytimes.com?p=eyJzIjoiaEhDR3cwVE1yd0pIVUw1Mjl6X0poOG5waDFrIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDI5MDUwMSxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvd3d3Lm55dGltZXMuY29tXFxcLzIwMTVcXFwvMDRcXFwvMDFcXFwvb3BpbmlvblxcXC90aGUtZnJlbmNoLXN1cnZlaWxsYW5jZS1zdGF0ZS5odG1sP19yPTFcIixcImlkXCI6XCI4NjY4MmI1MTlmNWI0YjdiODhmOTFiMWM1NWJiZTYyNVwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcIjYwYjY5MWM1NzRlZWY4ZjNlNGJlZmI0ZTNjZTc4Njg1MjdkNjY2NjhcIl19In0">
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/01/opinion/the-french-surveillance-state.html?_r=1</a> (EN)<br>
</span></div>
<div><span>And a news of Le Figaro here :</span></div>
<div><span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30290501/www.lefigaro.fr?p=eyJzIjoidlJJTzVJV1hZOHFvNXVCOFVHM2FPWmVxTlB3IiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDI5MDUwMSxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvd3d3LmxlZmlnYXJvLmZyXFxcL3NlY3RldXJcXFwvaGlnaC10ZWNoXFxcLzIwMTVcXFwvMDNcXFwvMjNcXFwvMDEwMDctMjAxNTAzMjNBUlRGSUcwMDEwMi1sZS1jb21iYXQtc29saXRhaXJlLWRlcy1vcHBvc2FudHMtYXUtcHJvamV0LWRlLWxvaS1yZW5zZWlnbmVtZW50LnBocFwiLFwiaWRcIjpcIjg2NjgyYjUxOWY1YjRiN2I4OGY5MWIxYzU1YmJlNjI1XCIsXCJ1cmxfaWRzXCI6W1wiYTVkMDU5MGY3YmM5OGE0MmUwNTllMGFhNTc5MDgyNTQzMDkyM2JmOFwiXX0ifQ">
http://www.lefigaro.fr/secteur/high-tech/2015/03/23/01007-20150323ARTFIG00102-le-combat-solitaire-des-opposants-au-projet-de-loi-renseignement.php</a> (FR)</span></div>
<div><span>(with Frederic Donck inside !).</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div>
<div><span>There is a global mobilization of french civil society
and NGO against this law.</span></div>
<div><span>The Internet Society France has made some
propositions :</span></div>
<div><span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30290501/www.isoc.fr?p=eyJzIjoiTDZpRi04VzZtVUIxTUhvT3VuNnVoUDlncEZzIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDI5MDUwMSxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvd3d3Lmlzb2MuZnJcXFwvYWN0dWFsaXRlcy1pc29jXFxcL2NvbW11bmlxdWUtbG9pLXJlbnNlaWduZW1lbnRcIixcImlkXCI6XCI4NjY4MmI1MTlmNWI0YjdiODhmOTFiMWM1NWJiZTYyNVwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcImYzMzk4NWY2M2E1NDUyZjQyN2RjYWEzODU0YWJkOWY3Y2QzZTNmYzNcIl19In0">
http://www.isoc.fr/actualites-isoc/communique-loi-renseignement</a><br>
</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div>
<div><span>Saturday afternoon, I will participate to a
debate.</span></div>
<div><span>And I think to write an editorial with
international point of view about this kind of
law.</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div>
<div><span>So I need you and I would like to know :</span></div>
<div><span>- if there is a similar law in your country
?</span></div>
<div><span>- what are the feedbacks about this law ?</span></div>
<div><span>- do you have statistics or « ROI »
information about this law ?</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div>
<div><span>Thank you very much.</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div>
<div><span>Warm regards,</span></div>
<div><span>Nicolas</span></div>
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<div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica;"><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px;"><b class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial;">Nicolas
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