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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">+1 Alejandro.<br>
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The non-geographical "groups" (SIG) or Chapters should be more
systematically set up.<br>
Rules, themes and some limitation in a set framework must be
known between Chapters and this new body<br>
type - in case of proliferation. There must be distinction<br>
as for no other reason for the double voting pointed by Alejandro.<br>
Chapters have known mission in the locations they act, the
mission of this new type<br>
of Chapter is certainly different and this type of body should be
recognized someho as <br>
other type "sub-organization" within Internet Society. The current
non-geographic<br>
chapters we have were well justified and with mission that was
accepted by<br>
the majority members of ISOC. This case is different. <br>
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Borka<br>
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Dne 2.4.2015 ob 22:03 je Alejandro Pisanty zapisal(a):<br>
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<div dir="ltr">John, all,
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<div>I fully agree on reservations on the creation of
non-geographical chapters. We already have a couple good-faith
efforts which I think do their work well and can allow us to
study some of the in-depth issues.</div>
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<div>For me first and foremost is the question of
vote-counting/double-voting. We already have some difficulties
with that when we allow members to belong to more than one
chapter. It doesn't seem to do much damage because the number
of people in such a situation are few (and I know of only one
pathological case of membership in something like 8 chapters.)
If the system of special-interest groups grows, it really
changes the internal governance of ISOC and we should not step
lightly. At the very least, changes must be introduced with a
clear date in which they will be assessed (and by whom etc.)
so if need be they can be reverted and redirected. "It is
interesting and good people want it" may be a naive motive to
support but not a sufficient one.</div>
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<div>The idea of Special Interest Groups (SIGs) is interesting
and worth a comprehensive look.</div>
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<div>Yours,</div>
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<div>Alejandro Pisanty</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 1:51 PM, John
More <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:morej1@mac.com" target="_blank">morej1@mac.com</a>></span>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Joyce
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<div>I strongly suggest that before moving to approve this
type of “Chapter”, there should be discussion of whether
this sort of a special interest body is really
appropriate for the Chapter structure. If there already
has been an examination in depth of the issues raised, I
would suggest there still needs to be some guidelines
and limits on what sort of interests are appropriate for
Chapter status.
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<div>I myself feel that it would be better to create an
additional type of ISOC entity that could be focused
on specific interests. I note that I am fully
supportive of creating groups within ISOC to focus on
specific interest, such as the Internet of Things,
Accessibility. Parallels can be found in other
organizations. The “Interest Councils” can then be
very effective in creating liaisons with the Chapters
to encourage participation and interest in their area
of interest.
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<div>Chapters strength comes from their having at
their core a geographic base. I would not like to
dilute that.</div>
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<div>John More</div>
<div>Co-Convenor</div>
<div>Greater Washington DC Chapter</div>
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<div>On Apr 2, 2015, at 1:09 PM, Sivasubramanian
M <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:isolatedn@gmail.com"
target="_blank">isolatedn@gmail.com</a>>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">Dear
Joyce</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">Though
the name appears a bit strange, if the
founding members have the vision, will and
strength to gather the required resources
in terms of membership and other forms of
support, this might turn out to be a
positively disruptive effort towards
causing the Internet eco-system to bring
about global development. Internet has yet
unexplored potential to address and
swiftly resolve the world's problems.</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">This
proposal is a step in that direction.
Several other initiatives could follow. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">Sivasubramanian
M</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">President</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">Internet
Society India Chennai</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://isocindiachennai.org/"
target="_blank">http://isocindiachennai.org</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 2, 2015
at 9:40 PM, Joyce Dogniez <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:dogniez@isoc.org"
target="_blank">dogniez@isoc.org</a>></span>
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style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear
colleagues,<br>
<br>
The following application for a Chapter
on Internet of Food has been<br>
received.<br>
It is being sent to this list for peer
comment and review. Please note<br>
that the Chapter is not yet formed and
has not been officially recognised<br>
by the Internet Society.<br>
<br>
As this application for a topic based
Chapter that would be a little<br>
different from the geography based ones,
here is a little explanation of<br>
the concept (an excerpt from the
application):<br>
Internet of Food is a concept equivalent
to Internet of Things, though<br>
more complex and dynamic and with
potentially larger impact on human life.<br>
Yet, the discussion on how we combine
the power of the Internet with food<br>
is little explored in spite of its
massive potential to affect key areas<br>
such as food security, transparency,
health and food waste through<br>
innovation and openness. The proposed
chapter on Internet of Food aims at<br>
leading the<br>
discussion regarding this new field and
to engage a wide audience in<br>
building better solutions for how to
feed the planet in a healthy and<br>
sustainable way.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
If there are people on this list that
know any of the individuals<br>
<br>
proposing to establish the Chapter,
their feedback is especially welcome.<br>
<br>
The period allowed for comments is two
weeks and the deadline is April 16,<br>
2015.<br>
<br>
Please do not hesitate to contact me on
or off list.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Tommi Karttaavi<br>
Manager, Chapter Development - Europe<br>
Internet Society<br>
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