<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>On the issue of ISOC 's website and accessibility <br><br></div><div>1. Website<br></div><div><br></div>I did a run using ACHECKER this morning<br></div>Enclosed is a screen capture of the site <br><br></div>2. Website RFP<br></div><div>ICANN's accessibility committee has been working with <br>Laura Bengford <<a href="mailto:laura.bengford@icann.org">laura.bengford@icann.org</a>><br></div><div>This is a RFP to revamp the ICANN website for Accessilbility<br><br></div><div>3. Meetings and Captioning <br></div><div>We have promoting the use of CAPTIONS FIRST for the online meetings and our<br></div><div>Technical Taskforce has a great recorded session with Pat Graves. We hope to do<br>a full webinar demonstration with ISOC soon<br><br></div><div>4 Captioning and Videos<br></div><div>Very important in the messaging is the use of captioning. If you notice using the CC on Youtube that the <br></div><div>information is wrong and slanderous with some of the closed captioning completing confusing the viewer<br><br></div><div>5. Audio recording of text<br></div><div>Lots and lots of ISOC's position papers are strictly text.<br>I would suggest converting this material using NATURAL READER <br><br></div><div>The speech can be slowed down which is important for those who have difficulty with English <br></div><div>besides those that are blind users<br><br></div><div>My comments are only part of a genuine plan by ISOC to move the agenda forward<br><br><br></div><div>Glenn<br></div><div><div><div><br><br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Glenn McKnight<br><a href="mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com" target="_blank">mcknight.glenn@gmail.com</a><br>skype gmcknight<br>twitter gmcknight<br>.</div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:21 AM, Klaus Birkenbihl <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Klaus.Birkenbihl@isoc.de" target="_blank">Klaus.Birkenbihl@isoc.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Folks,<br>
<br>
I'd like to refocus the discussion from "how do can we achieve<br>
accessibility" for our own publications to "how can we achieve<br>
quality" in general. In 2011 when th new Website was released with a<br>
lot of buzz I did some research on issues. And since nobody was able<br>
to tell me how to report the issues I decided to set-up a little page<br>
on my own to document issues and state of resolution.<br>
(<a href="http://klaus-birkenbihl.de/isoc-website-issues.html" target="_blank">http://klaus-birkenbihl.de/isoc-website-issues.html</a> still worth to<br>
review.) I informed Dan and Lia and we had a chat once and a while but<br>
I never got any concrete response on the issues or even measures<br>
applied. I polled the ISOC Website once and a while and was able to<br>
close some of the issues, while others were not addressed at all. But<br>
this is a cumbersome undertaking with no response from the other side.<br>
(see issue 14). So I gave up. Of course the list was far from being<br>
complete but something like this (or better: an issue tracker) could<br>
be used to collect issues discovered by the community and document<br>
their resolution. For those not familiar with the business: issue<br>
trackers are a very common tool on the Web to collect input on issues<br>
from the community. Vendors of all kind of Products (Software,<br>
Websites, Hardware ...) use them to improve.<br>
<br>
Seriously: Kathy's answer was the first I received since 2011 that<br>
described the state of an issue, mentioned state of fixing and<br>
measures applied. And that it was by Kathy who started this might<br>
indeed trigger a change of culture. :-)<br>
<br>
Klaus<br>
<br>
Michael Burks schrieb am 12.01.2015 um 01:30:<br>
<span class="">> All,<br>
><br>
> I could not agree more with Gunela. I will also mention that I have<br>
> attended the M-enabling conference and it is excellent~!<br>
><br>
> Sincerely,<br>
><br>
> Michael Burks<br>
> <a href="tel:919%20349%206661" value="+19193496661">919 349 6661</a><br>
><br>
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Gunela Astbrink<br>
</span><div><div class="h5">> <<a href="mailto:g.astbrink@gsa.com.au">g.astbrink@gsa.com.au</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:g.astbrink@gsa.com.au">g.astbrink@gsa.com.au</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Thank you, Kathy for your positive response. The Australian<br>
> Chapter joins with the Disability and Special Needs Chapter in<br>
> welcoming this interaction and offering assistance.<br>
><br>
> It's good to hear that Lia Kiessling will be the main point of<br>
> contact. I had some good discussions with Lia a few years ago<br>
> about making disability awareness videos. Maybe ISOC can develop<br>
> some videos relevant for different regions?<br>
><br>
> As we know, Internet accessibility goes beyond web<br>
> accessibility. ISOC may also wish to consider setting up an<br>
> Accessibility Action Plan with key focus areas, responsibilities<br>
> and timeframes.<br>
><br>
> Accessibility for people with disability has become a mainstream<br>
> issue with companies such as Google<br>
> (<a href="http://www.google.com/accessibility/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/accessibility/index.html</a>), Apple<br>
> (<a href="http://www.apple.com/accessibility/resources/" target="_blank">http://www.apple.com/accessibility/resources/</a>) and Microsoft<br>
> (<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/enable/" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/enable/</a>) to just name three that have<br>
> dedicated resources on accessibility with most of them embedding<br>
> accessibility into their products to a greater or lesser extent.<br>
> There's still a way to go though.<br>
><br>
> The UK-based Business Technology Taskforce also provides<br>
> resources for business on accessibility:<br>
> <a href="http://technologytaskforce.org/" target="_blank">http://technologytaskforce.org/</a> Companies such as Cisco are<br>
> members. There is an Accessibility Maturity Model for use as a<br>
> self-assessment tool designed for business but it could also be<br>
> a useful indicator for ISOC as well.<br>
><br>
> Thanks to Christian for highlighting the annual eAccess<br>
> conference in the UK.<br>
><br>
> Another excellent conference close to one of ISOC's head offices<br>
> is mEnabling held annually in Washington DC:<br>
> <a href="http://www.m-enabling.com/" target="_blank">http://www.m-enabling.com/</a> This year it's on 1-2 June.<br>
> I suggested a few years that an ISOC staff member participate in<br>
> this but unfortunately the timing wasn't right. Maybe this year...<br>
><br>
> There is plenty of information and guidance out there. Now it's<br>
> a matter of harnessing it in a way that will be suitable for<br>
> ISOC moving forwards on the Internet is for Everyone.<br>
><br>
> I remain hopeful...<br>
><br>
> Gunela<br>
> Director, Internet Society of Australia<br>
><br>
><br>
> Christian de Larrinaga said the following on 10/01/15 02:52 :<br>
><br>
> ditto -- Kathy's response is a welcome breath of fresh air.<br>
><br>
> It may be worth pointing out that everybody has a challenge with<br>
> accessibility. Even with the best will in the world and tons of<br>
> experience it takes thought,effort and keeping all the many<br>
> dependencies<br>
> in a row.<br>
><br>
> A long time supporter of open web Dan Jellinek of Headstar<br>
> coincidentally wrote to me today about another of his<br>
> eAccess events<br>
> coming up in February.<br>
><br>
> " Are you excluding disabled people from websites, apps and<br>
> other<br>
> digital services?<br>
><br>
> Could you improve your accessibility and usability?<br>
><br>
> eAccess 15: UK’s top event on access to digital services by<br>
> disabled people<br>
><br>
> 24 February, Government Conference Centre, Westminster<br>
</div></div>> <a href="http://www.eaccess-event.com" target="_blank">www.eaccess-event.com</a> <<a href="http://www.eaccess-event.com" target="_blank">http://www.eaccess-event.com</a>><br>
<div><div class="h5">><br>
> In the digital age all public, private and third sector<br>
> bodies must<br>
> ensure their websites, apps and other digital services are<br>
> accessible to<br>
> disabled and older people for cost, efficiency, ethical and<br>
> legal<br>
> reasons. eAccess 15 is the UK’s leading event on this topic.<br>
><br>
> If there are any UK based contractors to ISOC web services<br>
> this might be<br>
> a useful and timely resource.<br>
><br>
> best<br>
><br>
><br>
> Christian<br>
><br>
> Klaus Birkenbihl wrote:<br>
><br>
> Kathy,<br>
><br>
> thanks for your answer and for providing me with a<br>
> surprise, and<br>
> apologies for the sarcasm in my mail - which I know is<br>
> annoying but<br>
> also expresses frustration and annoyance over endless,<br>
> fruitless<br>
> discussions. The surprise is: as reply to a concrete<br>
> complain about an<br>
> issue the issue was addressed and a concrete action was<br>
> taken<br>
> immediately - instead of the usual "we have big plans<br>
> that will solve<br>
> everything. Go away with your tiny issue, come back next<br>
> year."<br>
> (Plans, that cost time and money - and mostly produced<br>
> more issues<br>
> than solved.)<br>
><br>
> So I'm inclined share Gunela's hope for improvements. We<br>
> have these<br>
> technologies developed and standardized by IETF and W3C,<br>
> there are the<br>
> tools that the community developed on base of these<br>
> standards for<br>
> supporting communication and work on the net. While the<br>
> world picks<br>
> them up, we should not be shy and also make best use of<br>
> them. Would be<br>
> better than installing expensive products that violate<br>
> the standards<br>
> and hardly do the job.<br>
><br>
> Thanks for triggering the change,<br>
> Klaus<br>
><br>
> .<br>
> Kathy Brown schrieb am 09.01.2015 um 13:00:<br>
><br>
> Klaus and all,<br>
><br>
> We did, indeed, pick up your message --I meant to<br>
> reply yesterday but the day got away from me. We<br>
> take time, though, to talk through your very helpful<br>
> intervention and to make some immediate improvements<br>
> as per your recommendations.<br>
><br>
> As you rightly point out, we need to bake<br>
> accessibility into our design and initial planning<br>
> for all communication. I agree that it is a quality<br>
> issue. It is also a "principle" issue. If we say<br>
> that the Internet is for everyone, we better mean<br>
> everyone.<br>
><br>
> We are about to begin an upgrade for the ISOC site.<br>
> Now is the time to set the design and quality<br>
> standards for all aspects of our communications. The<br>
> BY THE NUMBERs piece was an attempt to make data<br>
> alive--something I think that is very important.<br>
> Help us think through and perfect how to make these<br>
> type of design experiments work for everyone.<br>
><br>
> Lia Kiessling will be point on this for Staff.<br>
> Expert input is key to the process so I asked her to<br>
> reach out to you. There's also the Disability and<br>
> Special Needs Chapter that both you and Lia can<br>
> coordinate with. I believe you have Lia's Skype<br>
> details so I'll leave it with the two of you to<br>
> start this needed process.<br>
><br>
> Thank you, again, for your quick, thorough and<br>
> helpful contribution. We all, together, need to<br>
> continue to build the Internet and the Internet<br>
> Society for everyone.<br>
> Kathy Brown<br>
><br>
><br>
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