<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">+1<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">John More</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 6, 2015, at 9:45 PM, Alejandro Pisanty <<a href="mailto:apisanty@gmail.com" class="">apisanty@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Richard,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I too am very thankful to Bob Hinden and to Kathy Brown for their reports, messages and good work.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Let me express my profound disagreement with your statement for NMI. First, at the most general level, it assumes that NMI is necessary, and is read as too happy that a single, overarching Internet governance structure may emerge.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As far as I can tell both views have not been backed by ISOC and are in fact contrary to ISOC's accumulated views, experience, principles and outlook. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Going into more detail, I oppose statements or phrases such as "in their respective roles", for favorign a silo approach instead of a collaborative stance, and many others. Going into further detail would drag us into a rathole and I refuse to go that way when we have such a massive discrepancy at the highest level.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yours,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Alejandro Pisanty</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Richard Hill <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:rhill@hill-a.ch" target="_blank" class="">rhill@hill-a.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Bob,<br class="">
<br class="">
Thank you for this. I see that NMI is asking for input on their Terms of<br class="">
Reference.<br class="">
<br class="">
In light of the challenges that you identified in your year end message, I<br class="">
would propose something like the following for the NMI:<br class="">
<br class="">
Recognizing that the Internet is a global resource which should be managed<br class="">
in the public interest, the NETmundial Initiative will seek to develop<br class="">
enablers/solutions for distributed Internet governance, ensuring the full<br class="">
involvement of all stakeholders in their respective roles and<br class="">
responsibilities, so as to address current pressing challenges, in<br class="">
particular government actions and inactions, and private sector actions,<br class="">
that result in restrictions of freedom of speech and of personal privacy; in<br class="">
mass surveillance; in loss of control of personal information; in<br class="">
monetization of personal information; in lack of cybersecurity; in<br class="">
cybercrime; and in lack of universal, equal opportunity, affordable and high<br class="">
quality Internet access.<br class="">
<br class="">
The NETmundial Initiative will also seek to develop enablers/solutions for<br class="">
distributed Internet governance that will favour the realization of all<br class="">
human rights, recognizing that human rights are indivisible and that they<br class="">
include democracy, economic and social justice, and the right to<br class="">
development; and that governments have primary, legal and political<br class="">
accountability for the protection of human rights.<br class="">
<br class="">
When developing enablers/solutions, the NETmundial Initiative will use<br class="">
democratic, multistakeholder processes, ensuring the meaningful and<br class="">
accountable participation of all stakeholders, including governments, the<br class="">
private sector, civil society, the technical community, the academic<br class="">
community and users. The respective roles and responsibilities of<br class="">
stakeholders should be interpreted in a flexible manner with reference to<br class="">
the issue under discussion.<br class="">
<br class="">
Best,<br class="">
Richard<br class="">
<br class="">
-----Original Message-----<br class="">
From: Chapter-delegates [mailto:<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org" class="">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>]On<br class="">
Behalf Of Bob Hinden<br class="">
Sent: mercredi, 24. décembre 2014 17:35<br class="">
To: ISOC Chapter Delegates<br class="">
Subject: [Chapter-delegates] A few updates on NMI<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
Hi,<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
I received this yesterday from the NMI organizers. They also announced the<br class="">
membership of the council. It can be found at:<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<a href="https://www.netmundial.org/blog/secretariat/netmundial-initiative-announces-formation-its-inaugural-coordination-council-and" target="_blank" class="">https://www.netmundial.org/blog/secretariat/netmundial-initiative-announce<br class="">
s-formation-its-inaugural-coordination-council-and</a><br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
Bob<br class="">
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Begin forwarded message:<br class="">
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From: NETmundial Initiative Secretariat <<a href="mailto:secretariat@netmundial.org" class="">secretariat@netmundial.org</a>><br class="">
<br class="">
Subject: Changes resulting from your feedback<br class="">
<br class="">
Date: December 23, 2014 4:48:30 PM PST<br class="">
<br class="">
To: <a href="mailto:steve@shinkuro.com" class="">steve@shinkuro.com</a>, <a href="mailto:bob.hinden@gmail.com" class="">bob.hinden@gmail.com</a><br class="">
<br class="">
Cc: Fadi Chehade <<a href="mailto:fadi.chehade@icann.org" class="">fadi.chehade@icann.org</a>>, SAMANS Richard<br class="">
<<a href="mailto:richard.samans@weforum.org" class="">richard.samans@weforum.org</a>>, virgilio almeida<br class="">
<<a href="mailto:virgilio.almeida@mct.gov.br" class="">virgilio.almeida@mct.gov.br</a>>, Nora Abusitta <<a href="mailto:nora.abusitta@netmundial.org" class="">nora.abusitta@netmundial.org</a>><br class="">
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<br class="">
<br class="">
Dear Steve and Bob,<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
We wanted to take this opportunity to thank you for your feedback regarding<br class="">
the NETmundial Initiative's activities and organization, as outlined in the<br class="">
recent joint statement issued by ISOC and ICANN.<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
In response to your feedback, the NETmundial Initiative will implement the<br class="">
following suggested changes:<br class="">
Draft the Initiative's Terms of Reference through a bottom-up community<br class="">
consultation process;<br class="">
<br class="">
The first meeting of the Coordination Council will now be delayed for at<br class="">
least three months to allow for inclusive community input;<br class="">
<br class="">
This first Coordination Council will be named ‘Inaugural’ with a limited<br class="">
term in order to emphasize the evolving nature of the structure and form of<br class="">
the NETmundial Initiative;<br class="">
<br class="">
Appoint Dr. Wolfgang Kleinwächter as Special Ambassador to increase<br class="">
cooperation and ensure open channels of dialogue between the community and<br class="">
the Inaugural Coordination Council.<br class="">
<br class="">
The NETmundial Initiative remains committed to working collaboratively with<br class="">
all interested parties in helping inform and shape its way forward.<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
Sincerely,<br class="">
NETmundial Initiative Transitional Committee Members:<br class="">
Fadi Chehadé (ICANN)<br class="">
Richard Samans (WEF)<br class="">
Virgílio Augusto Fernandes Almeida (<a href="http://CGI.br" class="">CGI.br</a>)<br class="">
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