<div dir="ltr">Joly,<div><br></div><div>indeed there is a discussion on the Skype chat put together by Evan and which involves some of us ISOC chapter leaders and other members.</div><div><br></div><div>Since that is a close, non-transparent, non-publicly-recorded, non-standards-compliant discussion I have asked the CAC-proposal team members, Evan and John, to move it to this shared space and to the standards-compliant email discussion list.</div><div><br></div><div>Yours,</div><div><br></div><div>Alejandro Pisanty</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Joly MacFie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com" target="_blank">joly@punkcast.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hi Janvier,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">There is discussion of the CAC proposal on the ISOC Chat on Skype. I am seeing there that current Trustee Hans Peter Dittler has responded to you directly there that, as a prime mover behind the CAC initiative, he will continue to support it on the Board.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">and, for the record, Evan Leobovitch also responded</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">We are very aware of the need to move this forward and are in the process of engaging the Board. It is our intention and hope that the Charter will be approved by the Board at its February meeting. We are working on a timeline to achieve this, which requires achieving consensus from Chapters on this final version, as well as cheking there are no legal or other obstacles that might prevent Board approval.<br>There will be a mail to the Chapter-Delegates mailing list that will be sent soon on this matter.</blockquote></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Regards</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">joly</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><font face="yw-b3b03f93acb29dde874548d979c14638352bd06e-a914ae6aec241788799757a2ded1cecd--o"></font></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Janvier Noulaye <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jnoulaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">jnoulaye@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thank you John.</div><div>I understand that each Council must only play it role.</div><div>I am fine with the proposal as is.</div><div>Is there one board member involve to this discussion to push this proposal into the agenda of the next board meeting for approval ? I fear that this great work can end here. </div><div>With the RIR system the such discussion starts on the RDP mailing list and end to the Board table for approval.</div><div>Please help me to understand how it works here. May be we must set the approval timetable of this Chart ?</div><div>There may still be unperfect, but it will be corrected as during its application over time. </div><div>We must move to the next step as Evan just said on skype.</div><div>Warm regards</div><div><br></div><div>/Janvier Ngnoulaye, PhD</div><div>Chair ISOC Cameroon</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-12-10 15:54 GMT+01:00 John More <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:morej1@mac.com" target="_blank">morej1@mac.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Janvier<div><br></div><div>The two Advisory Councils operate independently and there is no hierarchy. There is also no reason why the two Advisory Councils cannot communicate and cooperate in providing advice to the President and the Board. On the other hand the Chapters Advisory Council is likely to have a broader mandate and more activities because of the nature of Chapters (versus the org members) and the wish for the CAC to promote inter-Chapter projects and initiatives.</div><div><br></div><div>Yours,</div><div><br></div><div>John More</div><div>Co-Convenor, ISOC Washington DC</div><div><br></div><div>Aussi, merci pour vos commentaires.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div>On Dec 10, 2014, at 7:27 AM, Janvier Noulaye <<a href="mailto:jnoulaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">jnoulaye@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br></div></div><div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Christine and All.</div><div>I apologize for have missed this webex session. </div><div>Thank to the staff for have provided the recording.</div><div>I followed the discussion through this recording and I read again the charter proposed for the Chapter Advisory Council. It really looks fine. Thanks for the authors.</div><div>I also read the charter of the Advisory Council, but I'm a bit confused. (<a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/who-we-are/advisory-council/charter-advisory-council" target="_blank">http://www.internetsociety.org/who-we-are/advisory-council/charter-advisory-council</a>)</div><div>Can someone clarify the line separating the two Councils, or if we fix these Councils inside the ISOC Organizational Chart, do we see them at the same or in different hierarchical level ? It looks like we can have a situation where the two can conflict in providing advices tomorrow. Thanks for clarifications.</div><div><br></div><div>Warm regards,</div><div>/Janvier Ngnoulaye, Ph.D.</div><div>Chair, ISOC Cameroon </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-12-09 21:51 GMT+01:00 Christine Saegesser Baethge via Internet Society <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Mail@connectedcommunity.org" target="_blank">Mail@connectedcommunity.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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