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<DIV><SPAN class=390293708-20112014><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>Dear
Carlos,</FONT></SPAN></DIV><SPAN class=390293708-20112014>
<DIV><BR><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>Whether or not to "increase
speed" is a delicate matter when there is lack of unanimity. It is not
necessarily a good idea to force decisions when there is no true
consensus. I think that was the case at WCIT, but also at Netmudial,
where, as you know, several civil society organizations expressed reservations
about the outcome.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV></SPAN><SPAN class=390293708-20112014><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial>On the other hand, I agree that sometimes decisions do need to be
taken, even if there is not unanimity. But it is a delicate
matter.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=390293708-20112014><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial>Best,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=390293708-20112014><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial>Richard</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr class=OutlookMessageHeader align=left><FONT size=2
face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Carlos Raúl G.
[mailto:crg@isoc-cr.org]<BR><B>Sent:</B> jeudi, 20. novembre 2014
01:27<BR><B>To:</B> Richard Hill<BR><B>Cc:</B> Livingood, Jason; chapter-d
>> Chapter Delegates<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Chapter-delegates] Internet
Society Statement on theNETmundial Initiative<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Dear Richard!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Thank for your good explanations. But if we don't need new groups or not,
we agree that the present ones have to increase their speed exponentially and
not wait just for the next meeting.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The speed of he cross community working groups on the IANA transition or
the speed of the Net Mundial declaration should be the new benchmarks for the
local/regional issues as well, if we want continuous support from the bottom
of the connectivity ladder.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Best regards<BR><BR>Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
<DIV>+506 8335 2487</DIV>
<DIV>Enviado desde mi iPhone</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR>El nov 19, 2014, a las 4:40 PM, Richard Hill <<A
href="mailto:rhill@hill-a.ch">rhill@hill-a.ch</A>> escribió:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Dear Carlos,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I agree that your 3 below is an issue. It it
affects the cost of connectivity, in particular in developing
countries. This issue has been under discussion in ITU for many years,
see for example:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> </FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><A
href="http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/studygroups/com03/iic/">http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/studygroups/com03/iic/</A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>So one might conclude that it is not
sufficiently addressed by ITU. But the reason for the relatively slow
progress of the discussions is that there were major disagreements regarding
the causes, and thus regarding what measures to take to address the
issue.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>Recently, there has been quite a bit of
progress, because consensus has been reached that there are multiple causes,
and all should be addressed, see:</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2> <A
href="http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-D.50-201305-I!Sup2">http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-D.50-201305-I!Sup2</A> </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>I doubt that some other forum could have
progressed the discussions any faster, unless it was a forum that did not
include the full spectrum of views (for example, if the forum included
mostly developed country operators, you would reach conclusions quickly, but
they would not be necessarily accepted by developing county
operators).</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>So, for the particular issue you raise, I
don't see the need for any new groups.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>I do, however, see the need to improve
existing groups, and this is, I think, consistent with the ISOC
statement.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>Best,</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>Richard</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=crg@isoc-cr.org href="mailto:crg@isoc-cr.org">Carlos Raúl G.
</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com
href="mailto:Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com">Livingood, Jason</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org
href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-d >> Chapter
Delegates</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 19, 2014
5:59 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Chapter-delegates]
Internet Society Statement on theNETmundial Initiative</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>1- YES</DIV>
<DIV>2- YES </DIV>
<DIV>3- regional traffic Infraestructure and local market conditions for
access <BR><BR>Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
<DIV>+506 8335 2487</DIV>
<DIV>Enviado desde mi iPhone</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR>El nov 19, 2014, a las 12:57 PM, Livingood, Jason <<A
href="mailto:Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com">Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com</A>>
escribió:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>On 11/19/14, 9:58 AM, "Sivasubramanian M" <<A
href="mailto:isolatedn@gmail.com">isolatedn@gmail.com</A>>
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class=gmail_default>@Raul It is not well understood that this is
NOT our final position, and a bit of negative publicity has resulted
and a few other actors have used this announcement to campaign against
NETmundial.</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></SPAN>
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<DIV>It is not about NETmundial, it is about the newly proposed
NETmundial Initiative, something quite different. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I regret that you feel it put us in a negative position but we
strongly disagreed with the entire top-down concept of oversight of the
group. </DIV>
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<DIV>Some questions I have:</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>1 – Do you agree that the IANA transition is a very important
priority for us to continue to focus on?</DIV>
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<DIV>2 – Are there major “Internet governance” issues that cannot be
addressed by existing groups – OR are being insufficiently addressed by
existing groups?</DIV>
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<DIV>3 – If so, what are those issues?</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks!</DIV>
<DIV>Jason</DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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