<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">Dear Olivier,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="gmail_signature"></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank">ocl@gih.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br>
On 17/11/2014 04:39, Greg Wood wrote:<br>
> At the conclusion of its meeting in Honolulu, the Internet Society Board of Trustees issued the following statement:<br>
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> We will follow up in the next week with more details on the community dialogue.<br>
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> -Greg<br>
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> <a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/news/internet-society-statement-netmundial-initiative" target="_blank">https://www.internetsociety.org/news/internet-society-statement-netmundial-initiative</a><br>
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</span>Thanks for this pointer, Greg. I note that there's been much discussion<br>
on the ISOC web group platform as well but for the sake of convenience<br>
will reply here. I am sorry to not have followed this more closely but<br>
am engulfed in the NTIA functions Stewardship Transition discussions<br>
hence which appear to be more of a priority at the moment.<br>
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I am in two minds about the Statement. I do not disapprove it. However I<br>
do have concerns about "where do we go from here?" Like many people in<br>
our multistakeholder space I felt uneasy about this initiative landing<br>
in the WEF in a rather top down manner but could understand *some* of<br>
the rationale behind it, which I felt related to the funding of the<br>
initiative in particular. WEF has deep pockets.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">I strongly support the involvement of the WEF, but NOT for ease of funding. Participation of the WEF implies that the wider business community from across various business sectors get involved. With the participation of WEF, Business participation in Internet Governance space extends beyond Domain / IT sector. The four or five million that it might take to organize the NETmundial is not otherwise impossible for the present participants of the Internet Governance, so it is not a dire need for funds that brought the WEF to NETmundial.</div></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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So where do we go from here and does ISOC's rejection of the initiative<br>
indicate a deeper disagreement between the I* organisations? </blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">If there is a deeper or unseen or unspoken disagreement between the I* organization which is manifesting by way of a formal statement, then that is what needs to be attended to. Time for a joint ISOC/ICANN Board - Senior Staff meeting for a start, later to include all I* organizations?</div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Has ISOC<br>
clearly closed the door? </blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">From a distance, I don't think so. </div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">More importantly where are we (as in all<br>
defenders of the core principles which are listed in the ISOC Boar<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline">d</div><br>
Statement) going to find the funding for our continued defence of these<br>
principles?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">I feel that the way forward is to be part of this initiative, also help bring in the participation of the Civil Society, but at the same time ensure that the NETmundial framework allows wider participation and all round improvement year after year, with a clear assurance that no single stakeholder group would exercise a disproportionate influence in the long run.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">It is WEF this year. Could it include a large global foundation or two next year? Would it have room to include one or two Governments as supporters? Or include the Commonwealth or G20 or the Council of Europe next year? Or do we insist on concluding that NETmundial has reached its ultimate shape?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">We need to understand that NETmundial is in its formative stage. At this stage, an individual, a small group of individuals, or an organization or two, take the initiative, and this act of taking the initiative is prone to be misunderstood as an attempt to get to centerstage. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">The motives might actually be larger than what is visible.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Sivasubramanian M </div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Kindest regards,<br>
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Olivier<br>
(own views)<br>
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