<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">+1 Carlos.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">@Raul It is not well understood that this is NOT our final position, and a bit of negative publicity has resulted and a few other actors have used this announcement to campaign against NETmundial.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Sivasubramanian M</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy" target="_blank">Sivasubramanian M</a></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:crg@isoc-cr.org" target="_blank">crg@isoc-cr.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Raúl,<br>
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I just see a lot of value judgements in advance about an initiative by one of the most bottom up organizations in the world: <a href="http://cgi.br" target="_blank">cgi.br</a><br>
Some of its members have already stated they (<a href="http://cgi.br" target="_blank">cgi.br</a>) will guarantee all important values we all care for<br>
Why does not ISOC just join as leading I* member and helps guarantee that the best intentions of <a href="http://cgi.br" target="_blank">cgi.br</a> will be protected and improved?<br>
ISOC asked for our comments, and with all due respect, none of my comments is reflected in the Board of trustees statement.<br>
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Maybe is good we all put our own both up standards under review.<br>
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Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez<br>
Chair ISOC Costa Rica<br>
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> El 19/11/2014, a las 10:38, Raul Echeberria <<a href="mailto:echeberria@isoc.org">echeberria@isoc.org</a>> escribió:<br>
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> Olivier:<br>
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> ISOC is not closing any door.<br>
> What the statement says is that there had not been a bottom up open discussion so far on this initiative and there are concerns with regard to the consistency with our principles in that sense.<br>
> But through this statement the Board is also asking ISOC’s CEO to conduct an open dialogue within our community. This is what should have happened before.<br>
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> So, answering your question “Where do we go from here?”, my answer is Open Discussion without anticipating any outcome of those discussions.<br>
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> Best,<br>
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> Raúl<br>
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> El 18/11/2014, a las 16:03, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a>> escribió:<br>
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>> On 17/11/2014 04:39, Greg Wood wrote:<br>
>>> At the conclusion of its meeting in Honolulu, the Internet Society Board of Trustees issued the following statement:<br>
>>><br>
>>> We will follow up in the next week with more details on the community dialogue.<br>
>>><br>
>>> -Greg<br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/news/internet-society-statement-netmundial-initiative" target="_blank">https://www.internetsociety.org/news/internet-society-statement-netmundial-initiative</a><br>
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>> Thanks for this pointer, Greg. I note that there's been much discussion<br>
>> on the ISOC web group platform as well but for the sake of convenience<br>
>> will reply here. I am sorry to not have followed this more closely but<br>
>> am engulfed in the NTIA functions Stewardship Transition discussions<br>
>> hence which appear to be more of a priority at the moment.<br>
>><br>
>> I am in two minds about the Statement. I do not disapprove it. However I<br>
>> do have concerns about "where do we go from here?" Like many people in<br>
>> our multistakeholder space I felt uneasy about this initiative landing<br>
>> in the WEF in a rather top down manner but could understand *some* of<br>
>> the rationale behind it, which I felt related to the funding of the<br>
>> initiative in particular. WEF has deep pockets.<br>
>><br>
>> So where do we go from here and does ISOC's rejection of the initiative<br>
>> indicate a deeper disagreement between the I* organisations? Has ISOC<br>
>> clearly closed the door? More importantly where are we (as in all<br>
>> defenders of the core principles which are listed in the ISOC Board<br>
>> Statement) going to find the funding for our continued defence of these<br>
>> principles?<br>
>><br>
>> Kindest regards,<br>
>><br>
>> Olivier<br>
>> (own views)<br>
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