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12pt;font-family: Optima;"><span style="font-family: Optima;"></span>The
trustees did a great job. ISOC communities now need to explain to our
local Internet communities the rationale for MS principles lies in their
importance for engaging all Internet participants to ensure an open
Internet for everyone. <br><br>I'm very pleased to see such strong
commitment expressed in the plan Kathy distributed yesterday to empower
our ability to communicate in 2015. The linkage of our mission which is
can seem rather dry and technical, with human rights is explicit and in
my view very welcome. I think it is worth our picking through the
proposed budget to understand operational impact on a chapter and
regional basis. However on the NMI divergence I agree as Evan, Alejandro
and Jason have commented that we need to co-ordinate our communications
with vigour and clarity ASAP (perhaps alongside any chats across I* and
ICANN with ISOC) in 2014. <br><br>It comes across as deeply cynical to
name the proposal "Net Mundial Initiative" whilst setting it up to
diverge so decisively from the key principles on multi stakeholder
engagement that the Net Mundial meeting only this year strongly
endorsed. ISOC which has a unique perspective and value on these issues
has done the other potential partners all a great service in making this
clear. <br><br><br>Christian<br><br><br><br>Evan Leibovitch wrote:<blockquote
cite="mid:CAMguqh3At2aZjf0D0k_HPbhy_5h+K2FbUXa6K1XgrBNf1Y8sGw@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><span
style="font-family:arial">On 19 November 2014 11:38, Alejandro Pisanty </span><span
dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:apisanty@gmail.com" target="_blank">apisanty@gmail.com</a>></span><span
style="font-family:arial"> wrote:</span><br></div><div
class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><span
style="font-family:arial"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div
class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">we
should fret less about negative publicity</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div
class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">
What negative publicity?</div><div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><br></div><div
class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">All I
have seen are <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.onlydomains.com/showNews/title/isoc-civil-society-unhappy-with-netmundial-initiative-not-consistent-with-democracy">nearly</a>-<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20141117/17550129174/internet-society-says-oh-hell-no-to-icanns-plan-un-security-council-internet.shtml">congratulatory</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/17/isoc_slams_netmundial_initiative/">comments</a>,
praising ISOC for singularly having the courage to stop the affront to
openness and MSM in its tracks. Suddenly we're relevant again.</div><div
class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><br></div><div
class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">And
NOW ... the day after the ISOC statement is released, Chehade is in the
news, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://gadgets.ndtv.com/internet/news/icann-chief-urges-decentralised-control-of-the-internet-622879">speaking
in favour of more decentralization in governance</a> .</div><div
class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><br></div><div
class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">So...
I have yet to see any negative fallout from the ISOC statement, but
plenty of positives have emerged.</div><div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><br></div><div
class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">What
debate exists, from what I can see, are tactical rather than on
substance. I see nobody saying that NMI was a Really Good Idea outside
of the three founders -- forget perfect, even workable or even
necessary. The main debate I have seen was whether to meekly join and
try to fix things from the inside, or to reject the initial offer,
pressuring for change as a condition of participation. And the ISOC
statement properly questions whether there is a need at all for such an
overarching body.</div><div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><br></div></div><blockquote
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"> and work more on strengthening a
principles-based position. </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div
class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">I
can fully appreciate the challenge between the dogmatic and pragmatic. I
think the ISOC approach has addressed both, rejecting the initial NMI
foundation but keeping the door open, and calling for the dialogue that
should have taken place BEFORE the fact.</div><br></div><div><div
class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">I
otherwise fully agree with Alejandro's assessment, especially:</div><br></div><blockquote
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>It is time to apply ISOC's
unique combination of analytic powers, subject-matter knowledge
availability, global-local presence, and adherence to principles, and
worry a bit less about hurt feelings. Raul's note is encouraging.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div
class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">Worth
repeating.</div><div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><br></div><div
class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">-
Evan</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'trebuchet
ms',sans-serif"></div></div></div>
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