<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Dear Richard!</div><div><br></div><div>Thank for your good explanations. But if we don't need new groups or not, we agree that the present ones have to increase their speed exponentially and not wait just for the next meeting.</div><div><br></div><div>The speed of he cross community working groups on the IANA transition or the speed of the Net Mundial declaration should be the new benchmarks for the local/regional issues as well, if we want continuous support from the bottom of the connectivity ladder.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards<br><br>Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez<div>+506 8335 2487</div><div>Enviado desde mi iPhone</div></div><div><br>El nov 19, 2014, a las 4:40 PM, Richard Hill <<a href="mailto:rhill@hill-a.ch">rhill@hill-a.ch</a>> escribió:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Dear Carlos,</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I agree that your 3 below is an issue. It it
affects the cost of connectivity, in particular in developing countries.
This issue has been under discussion in ITU for many years, see for
example:</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial"> </font><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><a href="http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/studygroups/com03/iic/">http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/studygroups/com03/iic/</a></font></font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><font size="2">So one might conclude that it is not
sufficiently addressed by ITU. But the reason for the relatively slow
progress of the discussions is that there were major disagreements regarding the
causes, and thus regarding what measures to take to address the
issue.</font></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"><font size="2"></font></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial"><font size="2">Recently, there has been quite a bit of
progress, because consensus has been reached that there are multiple causes, and
all should be addressed, see:</font></font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><font size="2"> <a href="http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-D.50-201305-I!Sup2">http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-D.50-201305-I!Sup2</a> </font></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"><font size="2"></font></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial"><font size="2">I doubt that some other forum could have
progressed the discussions any faster, unless it was a forum that did not
include the full spectrum of views (for example, if the forum included mostly
developed country operators, you would reach conclusions quickly, but they would
not be necessarily accepted by developing county operators).</font></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"><font size="2"></font></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial"><font size="2">So, for the particular issue you raise, I
don't see the need for any new groups.</font></font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><font size="2">I do, however, see the need to improve
existing groups, and this is, I think, consistent with the ISOC
statement.</font></font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><font size="2">Best,</font></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"><font size="2">Richard</font></font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="crg@isoc-cr.org" href="mailto:crg@isoc-cr.org">Carlos Raúl G.
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com" href="mailto:Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com">Livingood, Jason</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-d >> Chapter
Delegates</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 19, 2014 5:59
PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates] Internet
Society Statement on theNETmundial Initiative</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>1- YES</div>
<div>2- YES </div>
<div>3- regional traffic Infraestructure and local market conditions for
access <br><br>Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
<div>+506 8335 2487</div>
<div>Enviado desde mi iPhone</div></div>
<div><br>El nov 19, 2014, a las 12:57 PM, Livingood, Jason <<a href="mailto:Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com">Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com</a>>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(51,51,51); FONT-SIZE: small" class="gmail_default">@Raul It is not well understood that this is NOT
our final position, and a bit of negative publicity has resulted and a few
other actors have used this announcement to campaign against
NETmundial.</div></div></div></div></blockquote></span>
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<div>It is not about NETmundial, it is about the newly proposed NETmundial
Initiative, something quite different. </div>
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<div>I regret that you feel it put us in a negative position but we strongly
disagreed with the entire top-down concept of oversight of the
group. </div>
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<div>Some questions I have:</div>
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<div>1 – Do you agree that the IANA transition is a very important priority
for us to continue to focus on?</div>
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<div>2 – Are there major “Internet governance” issues that cannot be
addressed by existing groups – OR are being insufficiently addressed by
existing groups?</div>
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<div>3 – If so, what are those issues?</div>
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<div>Thanks!</div>
<div>Jason</div></div></div></blockquote>
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