<div dir="ltr">Dear alan,<div><br></div><div>please see my comments "inline"<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><b><font size="4">Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez</font></b><div><font size="4">ISOC Costa Rica Chapter<br></font><div><font color="#000099">skype carlos.raulg</font></div><div><font color="#000099">+506 8335 2487</font></div><div>________<br></div><div><div>Apartado 1571-1000</div><div><b>COSTA RICA</b></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-11-14 5:26 GMT-06:00 Alan Levin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alan@isoc.org.za" target="_blank">alan@isoc.org.za</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
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On 14 Nov 2014, at 12:38 PM, "Evan Leibovitch via Internet Society" <Mail@ConnectedCommunity.org> wrote:<br>
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Absolutely NOT (it's NOT ISOC standards compliant)<br>
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Hello Evan, please post to a standards compliant mailing list. We have set this one up a long long time ago… there seemed to be very little warning of this.<br>
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> I am happy to announce the release of the Public Draft of a proposal for a Charter for an ISOC Chapter Advisory Council.<br>
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As far as I recall the purpose of this council is to create representation of the chapters for ISOC global. This seems the wrong way around, we have plenty ISOC global forcing their stuff into the Chapters already…<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don-t know how long ago this list was set up, but my interest in the "horizontal" chapter collaboration goes back to the ISOC dinner we had at NetMundial. I had the opportunity to seat next to Evan and John More and we had a great conversation on the chances that Chapters would be more active on their own, sharing experience and collaborating directly between them, without having to go all the way up with proposals for grants and waiting for the money to come down. I think the idea is well reflect in section 6 if I remember well and hope some people find it interesting.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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> Based on work undertaken over the last year, and a flurry of new activity over the last month, the current core authors (John More and myself) believe that this document addresses the communications and collaboration needs of Chapters, in creation of a Council as described in the ISOC Bylaws. We hope that it will be acceptable to both Chapters and the Board of Trustees (who must also accept it).<br>
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I suggest that if the Chapters don't accept it then why should the Board?<br>
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> Contributors to latest round of edits, an "alpha" draft that has been worked on over the last month include:<br>
> Olivier Crepin-Leblond (UK England Chapter) Gihan Dias (Sri Lanka Chapter, ISOC Board) Hans Peter Dittler (Germany Chapter, ISOC Board) Joyce Dogniez (ISOC Staff, Director of Chapters) Carlos Raul Gutierrez (Costa Rica Chapter) Evan Leibovitch (Canada Chapter) John More (Washington DC Chapter) Charles Oloo (Kenya Chapter) Christopher Wilkinson (Belgium Wallonia Chapter) (My apologies if I have accidentally left anyone off)<br>
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I have written in the Chaptersadvisorycounciltaskforce mailing list a number of posts, I was not aware of anything that happened in 'the last month'. ???<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I complained about this as well, and got back into the list. </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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> For the latest round of changes, the authors have attempted to use simple, clear language and structure that is designed to be easy to translate, and as easy as possible to understand by people for whom English is not their first language.<br>
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the definition:<br>
> The Chapters Advisory Council of the Internet Society (“CAC”),<br>
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As per my previous posts, my understanding is that the Chapters Advisory Council is for Chapters to advise global, so I expect this is to be changed to "The Internet Society Chapters - Advisory Council (CAC)".<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I also expect horizontal collaboration between chapters and don't know if that affects the name. In any case I hope tis type of collaboration will become a more efficient way to move Global resources than the actual single grant system. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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> is the advisory body of the Internet Society (“ISOC”) representing its Chapters,<br>
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change: is the advisory body of the Internet Society Chapters to the Internet Society.<br>
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> as authorized in Article VIII, Section 2 of the ISOC Bylaws<br>
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The Bylaws change, I suggest we just nab this: "Internet Society Chapters are groups chartered according to the ISOC".<br>
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Alan<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Look forward to hear from you about other ideas on horizontal collaboration from your area.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div>Carlos Raul</div><div>Costa Rica </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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