<div dir="ltr">Given that the interests of registrants and end users are not in sync -- a number of examples have been provided above -- I welcome mention of any policy initiatives or positions in which any ICANN GNSO stakeholder group has visibly sided with the interests of non-registrant end users over those of registrants.<div>
<br></div><div>One will do.</div><div><br></div><div>It's easy to say that the constituencies are designed to serve users, but that's only when the interests of end-users and registrants are conveniently aligned.</div>
<div><br></div><div>In areas where they are not ... such as pressing ICANN compliance to enforce its rules, shut down the domains of bad actors, demand accurate WHOIS information, insist on Public Interest Commitments that aren't crap, admit that protecting Red Cross strings as trademarks isn't such a bad idea, demand end-user-centric metrics, or even dare once suggest that the gTLD expansion, in its then-current form, was "unacceptable" to the public interest ... At-Large has stood alone, with little support of other constituencies that claim to represent users. This can be verified.</div>
<div><br></div><div>It is in these areas -- those in which we must ascertain and advocate the needs of the billions who have not ever bought a domain name and never will -- the support of ISOC will be most helpful going forward,</div>
<div><br></div><div>The GNSO constituencies may charter themselves as they like, but ICANN Bylaw XI.2.4.a is about as explicit as it gets:<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px">
<div><b>The At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) is the primary organizational home within ICANN for individual Internet users. </b></div></blockquote><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 9 July 2014 17:44, Avri Doria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
I would add that on gTLD issues within the GNSO, I would say that both<br>
stakeholder groups, commercial and non commercial, are also designed to<br>
serve the interests of both registrants and users.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
avri<br>
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On 09-Jul-14 17:25, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:<br>
><br>
> Dear Christian,<br>
><br>
> thank you for this clarification. I have not seen At-Large operate any<br>
> kind of distinction between Registrants or Internet Users. Registrants<br>
> are a subset of the world's Internet users and are treated equally with<br>
> everyone else.<br>
> Kind regards,<br>
><br>
> Olivier<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 09/07/2014 14:11, Christian de Larrinaga wrote:<br>
><br>
>> My response to Evan argues that distinguishing users into registrants<br>
> and other users is not a good plan. I think my argument is valid. If At<br>
> Large is formally dividing this portfolio then this implies a need to<br>
> split At Large into (at least) two constituency organisations. One for<br>
> registrants and one for users who are not registrants.<br>
><br>
>> I hope that is clearer.<br>
><br>
><br>
>> Christian<br>
><br>
><br>
>> Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:<br>
>>> On 09/07/2014 12:01, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:<br>
>>>> Christian - irrespective of whether more Internet users should become<br>
>>>> domain registrants, I refer you to Article XI of the ICANN bylaws,<br>
>>>> Section 2.4.a<br>
>>>> The fact that an end user is a domain registrant or not does not come<br>
>>>> in the picture.<br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> (sorry for forgetting to include reference)<br>
>>><br>
>>> O.<br>
><br>
>> --<br>
>> Christian de Larrinaga<br>
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