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text="#000000"><div style="font-size: 12pt;font-family: Optima;">This is
a curious argument. I've seen it on AT Large lists as if it actually
means something useful. <br><br>I am a registrant for domains I
register.<br>I am simultaneously a non registrant of a great many more
domains that support services I do not manage. <br><br>I am the same
person. I am not schizophrenic. <br><br>As a registrant I have exactly
the same interest in keeping my whois registration record in working
order because I want to know if there is a problem and have a public
point of contact for people to reach me. As a user I want to be able to
reach the domain administrator so I can report problems and cross
reference registration data. <br><br>There is no significant difference
of interest here. <br><br>This means the problems that the registrar
policies are trying to resolve are in fact not with registrants nor with
users or a split between their interests but down to how the DNS
registration services are being administered and regulated and the
interests of that supply / regulatory chain.<br><br><br><br><br>
Christian <br>
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I normally don’t just agree with statements. But in this case, I must
support Evan. The interests of registrants do not equal the interests
of end users. They may - and ALSO - may not. Yes, registrants should
be heard but so should the voices of end users
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<div>Holly<br><div><div>On 5 Jul 2014, at 12:41 am, Evan Leibovitch
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:evan@telly.org">evan@telly.org</a>>
wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote
type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div
class="gmail_quote">On 4 July 2014 10:21, Richard Hill <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rhill@hill-a.ch" target="_blank">rhill@hill-a.ch</a>></span>
wrote:<br><div> </div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><span><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial">I
agree that it might not be feasible to organize a global election of the
ICANN
Board ty the citizens of the world, or by the users of the
Internet.</font></span><span></span> </div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">That's
why I suggest instead that the ICANN Board be elected by registrants
(holders)
of domain names.</font></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>As
indicated above, the interests of registrants and end users can vary --
and be completely opposed -- on some very substantial issues, not the
least of which is the balance between registrant accountability and
privacy (a core components of most DNS-related controversy right now
including the EWG). I would suggest that the significant domainer subset
of the registrant community has interests quite opposed to those of end
users.<br>
</div><div><br></div><div>So no, Richard, that is not an acceptable
alternative. Registrants have an utterly legitimate voice in a
multi-stakeholder system but theirs will never serve as a substitute for
end-user interests.</div>
<div><br></div><div>- Evan</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div>
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