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<DIV><SPAN class=781485416-03072014><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>It is
correct that parties present candidates, but in the Western democracies with
which I am familiar, it is not necessary for a candidate to be a member of
a party. That is, you can run as an independent.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=781485416-03072014><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=781485416-03072014><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>I
don't know how the Swiss People's Party chooses its candidates, but I know that
some of the other Swiss political parties issue a call for candidates amongst
their membership. If there are too many candidates, then the General
Assembly of the party (all members) decides which candidates are
retained.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=781485416-03072014><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial>Best,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=781485416-03072014><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial>Richard</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Chapter-delegates
[mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Eric
Burger<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 03, 2014 7:22 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
rhill@hill-a.ch<BR><B>Cc:</B> Chapter Delegates<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Chapter-delegates] Internet Society Appointments to theNTIA/IANA Stewardship
Transition Coordination Group<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Actually, I believe you are not correct in your assertion
in most Western democracies. Most Western democracies have parties that select
candidates that stand for election. For example, in Switzerland, different
parties propose candidates for office. Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not
believe the Swiss People’s Party conducts a nationwide election looking for
candidates.<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Jul 3, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Richard Hill <<A
href="mailto:rhill@hill-a.ch">rhill@hill-a.ch</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In
democracies, the ultimate authority (parliament) is elected by all those
affected, it is not chosen by a NomCom.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Best,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Chapter-delegates [<A
href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org">mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</A>]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Eric Burger<BR><B>Sent:</B> jeudi, 3. juillet 2014
18:07<BR><B>To:</B> Chapter Delegates<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Chapter-delegates] Internet Society Appointments to theNTIA/IANA
Stewardship Transition Coordination Group</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>One can take this argument ab absurdum. Are outside
board members not independent because they get compensation? Are independent
auditors not really independent because the corporation pays the auditor’s
bills? Is a random lottery of individuals from around the world not really
independent because their businesses rely on a domain name? <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I am not necessarily defending a self-selecting board.
However, I am wondering if this is not a case of “Democracy is the worst
form of government, except for the alternatives”?<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Jul 3, 2014, at 11:56 AM, Miller, Stephen H (Basrah)
<<A href="mailto:MillerSH@state.gov">MillerSH@state.gov</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">+1.
A little-discussed fact is that ICANN essentially selects its own Board (and
so its own oversight) through NomCom and related procedures. A general
principle of effective oversight, or auditing, or corporate
governance—whatever kind of oversight—is structural independence from the
entity being overseen. In the case of IANA, whatever the
political or optical issues with NTIA, that separation was clear.
Going into uncharted waters with this process, it may be natural for ICANN
to want to direct it and subsume it into its own organization and
structure. But well-defined outside oversight is probably the best and
most efficient guarantor of accountability. I think Evan has put his
finger on the biggest danger in this process,
imho.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Chapter-delegates
[<A href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org"><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</SPAN></A>]<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><B>On Behalf Of<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></B>Evan
Leibovitch<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Thursday, July 03, 2014 6:47
PM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Alejandro
Pisanty<BR><B>Cc:</B><SPAN class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Chapter
Delegates; Demi Getschko<BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [Chapter-delegates] Internet
Society Appointments to the NTIA/IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination
Group</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On 3 July 2014 05:46, Alejandro Pisanty <<A
href="mailto:apisanty@gmail.com" target=_blank><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">apisanty@gmail.com</SPAN></A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>ISOC is the only member of the Coordination Group that
is not simultaneously a directly interested party, a "client" of IANA or a
structural participant in ICANN.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<P class=MsoNormal>FWIW, I would also generally add to that set of
characteristics, the people currently being considered to fill the spots on
the CG by ICANN At-Large. While coming from a "structural participant in
ICANN", the At-Large delegates are also non-conflicted, and seek to protect
the interests of those who are neither sellers nor buyers of domains.
(Indeed, such perspective of At-Large is mandated in the ICANN bylaws.)
It is no coincidence that so many ISOC chapters are also At-Large
Structures.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>The ALAC and ISOC delegates have highly common interest
at the CG, and the potential to be an effective coalition. No doubt there
will be other, self-interested coalitions with which they will need to
contend.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I have already been hearing from some corners of ICANN a
sentiment that oversight of IANA should "naturally" fall to those with whom
ICANN has contractual relations. If carried through to its logical
conclusion this perspective would, in effect, put the regulated in change of
the regulator; it needs to be resisted.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Indeed, a trusted insider has suggested to me that the
reference by some within ICANN to the current situation as "IANA transition"
(as opposed to the more accurate "IANA stewardship transition") is
deliberate, and an attempt to shift (or at least blur) the
focus.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>This will indeed be an interesting
environment.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>- Evan<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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