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    John, <br>
    I understand the case against Google, but what about the other
    search engines? And what about the fact that the information will
    still exist somewhere, regardless of whether Google will "forget it"
    or not?<br>
    <br>
    v.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/19/14 08:49, John More wrote:<br>
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      As a lawyer who generally dislikes litigation, I concur fully with
      Vint’s statement.  The ECJ’s decision is poorly conceived and
      drafted and can only result in expensive litigation burdening the
      providers of  search services (and therefore the public). 
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      <div>John</div>
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          <div>On May 19, 2014, at 8:37 AM, Vint Cerf <<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:vint@google.com">vint@google.com</a>>
            wrote:</div>
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            <div dir="ltr">richard,
              <div>litigation is EXPENSIVE. Google is being forced to
                make a judgment based not on its own standards but on an
                uncertain "standard" that is not clear in the opinion
                expressed by ECJ. This is not a good outcome. You
                trivialize the problem in my opinion.</div>
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              <div>vint</div>
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            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:02 AM,
                Richard Hill <span dir="ltr"><<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rhill@hill-a.ch"
                    target="_blank">rhill@hill-a.ch</a>></span>
                wrote:<br>
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                    <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Dear
                          Pablo,</font></span></div>
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                    <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Perhaps
                          I misunderstood the ECJ judgement, but it
                          seems to me that it does not impose any
                          obligation on Google to adjudicate privacy or
                          to substitute itself for a judge.  As I
                          understand it, the ECJ says that a private
                          person can request that certain links be
                          removed.  If the search provider refuses, then
                          the private person can ask his national
                          authorities (data protection officer or
                          courts, as the case may be) to evaluate his
                          request and, if it is justified, to order the
                          search provider to remove the link.</font></span></div>
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                    <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Best,</font></span></div>
                    <div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Richard</font></span></div>
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                              face="Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<br>
                              <b>From:</b> Chapter-delegates [mailto:<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org"
                                target="_blank">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>]<b>On
                                Behalf Of </b>Pablo García Mexía<br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> lundi, 19. mai 2014 11:35<br>
                              <b>To:</b> Frédéric Donck<br>
                              <b>Cc:</b> Delegates Chapter; European
                              Chapters; Privacy list; Elist publicpolicy<br>
                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates]
                              [European-chapters] ECJ: Internet
                              searchengine's data processing
                              responsibilities<br>
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                              class="gmail_default">​Just wrote an
                              article on my blog on Spanish ​newspaper <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://ABC.es">ABC.es</a>
                              concerning this crucial ruling: <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://abcblogs.abc.es/ley-red/"
                                target="_blank">http://abcblogs.abc.es/ley-red/</a>
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                              class="gmail_default">[In Spanish,
                              sorry!!]</div>
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                              class="gmail_default">Google does
                              searches; the ECJ will have it adjudicate
                              on "privacy" from now on. And yet, how can
                              Google substitute to a judge on issues as
                              relevant and touchy as these?</div>
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                              class="gmail_default">Best wishes.</div>
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                            <br>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 13,
                              2014 at 11:13 AM, Frédéric Donck <span
                                dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:donck@isoc.org"
                                  target="_blank">donck@isoc.org</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                  Please find below a very important
                                  decision from the European Court of
                                  Justice.
                                  <div>In short, i<span
                                      style="TEXT-ALIGN:justify">n its</span><span
                                      style="TEXT-ALIGN:justify"> </span><a
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href="http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2014-05/cp140070en.pdf"
                                      target="_blank">ruling</a><span
                                      style="TEXT-ALIGN:justify"> </span><span
                                      style="TEXT-ALIGN:justify">from 13
                                      May [Google vs Spanish Data
                                      Protection Agency (AEPD)], the
                                      Court of Justice of the European
                                      Union stated that an operator of
                                      Internet search engine is
                                      responsible for the processing
                                      that it carries out of personal
                                      data which appear on web pages
                                      published by third parties. More
                                      details in the attach. I would be
                                      interested to hear your views.</span></div>
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                                    <div style="TEXT-ALIGN:justify">We
                                      shall address it in our next EU
                                      newsletter but felt that the
                                      information deserved immediate
                                      distribution.</div>
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_______________________________________________<br>
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                                of the European<br>
                                region you are automatically subscribed
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                            -- <br>
                            <div dir="ltr">Pablo García Mexía, J.D.,
                              Ph.D.
                              <div>Profesor visitante de Derecho de
                                Internet</div>
                              <div>The College of William & Mary</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Sigue mi columna semanal en <a
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                                  href="http://ABC.es">ABC.es</a></div>
                              <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                  target="_blank">http://abcblogs.abc.es/ley-red/</a></div>
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                  As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are
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                  Internet Society<br>
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            As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically
            subscribed<br>
            to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the
            Internet Society<br>
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As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed
to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society
Chapter Portal (AMS): <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://portal.isoc.org">https://portal.isoc.org</a></pre>
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Best, 
Veni Markovski
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://twitter.com/veni">https://twitter.com/veni</a>

The opinions expressed above are those of the 
author, not of any organizations, associated 
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