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<p style="margin-bottom:0cm" lang="en-GB">Consistent with future
GDPR !</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm" lang="en-GB">The erasure should be
carried only if:</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm" lang="en-GB">(a) the data are no longer
necessary in relation to the purposes for which they were collected
or otherwise processed</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm" lang="en-GB">(b) the data subject
withdraws consent on which the processing is based according to point
(a) of Article 6(1), or when the storage period consented to has
expired, and where there is no other legal ground for the processing
of the data;</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm" lang="en-GB">(c) the data subject
objects to the processing of personal data pursuant to Article 19;</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm" lang="en-GB">(ca) a court or regulatory
authority based in the Union has ruled as final and absolute that the
data concerned must be erased;</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm" lang="en-GB">(d) the data has been
unlawfully processed .</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm" lang="en-GB">And there are 9 more
paragraphs in this article.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0cm" lang="en-GB">J<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 14 May 2014 11:00, Christian de Larrinaga <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cdel@firsthand.net" target="_blank">cdel@firsthand.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div style="font-family:Optima;font-size:12pt" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Optima"><span style="font-family:Optima">Is it
consistent?<br><br>It seems to me the situation is riddled with
inconsistencies. For instance how do we differentiate between current,
historical and archival data? How do we distinguish roles and
responsibilities along the publication flow? <br><br>It is a
particularly problematic inconsistency to expunge (delete) data without
being clear about the context. Of course an index such as a search
engine is not deleting data sources but the references. As such this is a
librarian service. Should all libraries be required to delete their
indexes or redact data on request? In order to prevent further
dissemination? <br><br><br>C<br></span><blockquote style="border:0px none" type="cite"><div style="margin:30px 25px 10px"><div style="display:table;width:100%;border-top:1px solid rgb(237,238,240);padding-top:5px"> <div style="display:table-cell;vertical-align:middle;padding-right:6px">
<img src="cid:part1.09050800.09050109@firsthand.net" name="145f9f5ca7e6a5bf_compose-unknown-contact.jpg" width="25px" height="25px"></div> <div style="display:table-cell;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:100%">
<a href="mailto:jozef.halbersztadt@gmail.com" style="color:rgb(115,127,146)!important;padding-right:6px;font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none!important" target="_blank">Halbersztadt Jozef (jothal)</a></div> <div style="display:table-cell;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle">
<font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px">14 May 2014 07:37</span></font></div></div></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px"><div>The ruling of the Tribunal
is consistent with arriving General Data<br>Protection Regulation.
Position of the Parliament:<br><a href="http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=TA&language=EN&reference=P7-TA-2014-0212" target="_blank">http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=TA&language=EN&reference=P7-TA-2014-0212</a><br>
<br>Article
17 (AM 112) Right to erasure<br>1. The data subject shall have the
right to obtain from the controller<br>the erasure of personal data
relating to them and the abstention from<br>further dissemination of
such data, and to obtain from third parties<br>the erasure of any links
to, or copy or replication of, that data<br>where one of the following
grounds applies: (. . .)<br><br>JH<br><br></div></div><div style="margin:30px 25px 10px"><div style="display:table;width:100%;border-top:1px solid rgb(237,238,240);padding-top:5px"> <div style="display:table-cell;vertical-align:middle;padding-right:6px">
<img src="cid:part1.09050800.09050109@firsthand.net" name="145f9f5ca7e6a5bf_compose-unknown-contact.jpg" width="25px" height="25px"></div> <div style="display:table-cell;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:100%">
<a href="mailto:mail@christopherwilkinson.eu" style="color:rgb(115,127,146)!important;padding-right:6px;font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none!important" target="_blank">CW Mail</a></div> <div style="display:table-cell;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle">
<font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px">14 May 2014 06:52</span></font></div></div></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px">Good morning:<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>I share Richard's
reading of the ECJ judgement.<div>No doubt authoritative interpretation
will emerge in due course.</div><div><br></div><div>CW</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br></div><br></div><div>_______________________________________________<br>As
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<a href="mailto:rhill@hill-a.ch" style="color:rgb(115,127,146)!important;padding-right:6px;font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none!important" target="_blank">rhill</a></div> <div style="display:table-cell;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle">
<font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px">14 May 2014 05:40</span></font></div></div></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px"><div>As I understand the
situation, the complainant did also sue the original Spanish source,
but the court held that the original publication was legal. </div><div><br></div><div>So
it seems to me that what is significant about this case is the ruling
that compling and making easily acesssible by searching on a person's
name a complilation of information may violate European privacy law if
the person requests that some infomation not be displayed even if the
information itself is publicly available. </div><div><br></div><div>Best
Richard</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:9px;color:rgb(87,87,87)">Sent from Samsung Mobile</div></div><br><br><div>--------
Original message --------</div><div>From: Matthew Ford <u></u> <u></u></div><div>Date:13/05/2014
14:03 (GMT+01:00) </div><div>To: Vint Cerf <u></u> <u></u></div><div>Cc:
Delegates Chapter <u></u>,European Chapters
<u></u>,Elist publicpolicy <u></u>,Privacy
list <u></u> <u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u></div><div>Subject:
Re: [Chapter-delegates] ECJ: Internet search engine's data
processing responsibilities </div><div><br></div>+1. And why did the
complainant sue Google and not the original (Spanish) source? It seems
like a really hard way to go about not achieving what you want.<br><br>Mat<br><br>On
13 May 2014, at 11:55, Vint Cerf <a href="mailto:vint@google.com" target="_blank"><vint@google.com></a> wrote:<br><br>>
indexing crawlers just reflect what is on the web. Erasing links would
require the crawler to REMEMBER what it is supposed to erase, even if
the content is actually still on the web. Eventually you might end up
having to remember more than there is on the web! Even if the content
that was indexed went away, you would still have to remember in case it
came back. This makes no sense to me.<br>> <br>> v<br>> <br>>
<br>> <br>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 5:13 AM, Frédéric Donck
<a href="mailto:donck@isoc.org" target="_blank"><donck@isoc.org></a> wrote:<br>> Dear All<br>> <br>> <br>>
Please find below a very important decision from the European Court of
Justice.<br>> In short, in its ruling from 13 May [Google vs Spanish
Data Protection Agency (AEPD)], the Court of Justice of the European
Union stated that an operator of Internet search engine is responsible
for the processing that it carries out of personal data which appear on
web pages published by third parties. More details in the attach. I
would be interested to hear your views.<br>> <br>> We shall
address it in our next EU newsletter but felt that the information
deserved immediate distribution.<br>> <br>> Best Regards<br>>
Frederic<br>> <br>> Frederic Donck<br>> Director European
Regional Bureau<br>> Internet Society<br>> <br>> <a href="http://www.isoc.org" target="_blank">www.isoc.org</a><br>>
<br>> Début du message réexpédié :<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>>
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